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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
    Name me one welterweight who throws more punches against top opposition than Spence? Name me one. Spence threw 200 more punches than Brook for a total of 633. He threw over 1000 against Mikey. 745 against Porter.

    In comparison Thurman threw 539 against Porter and against Garcia he threw 570.

    Compubox already did a study that showed Spence throws 20 more punches per round than Crawford, don't believe me here is the link https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.***...-crawford/amp/

    Only Porter has a comparable punch output to Spence. Like I said y'all don't know what the **** y'all are talking about just like most people on this forum. And Danny being faster than Spence is laughable bro, but y'all just hate Spence anyway on here so no amount of facts I post will change your opinion.
    Spence is a high output come forward fighter. He is effective at WW because of how big he is and how well he can make weight.

    Triangle theory still holds though. Just because Spence threw more against Porter than Danny threw against Porter doesnt mean Spence will throw more against Danny.

    Spence WILL have more output than Danny because Danny is a counter-puncher but dont fall victim to triangle theory ! Because it aint always the truth !

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    • #32
      Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
      Spence is a high output come forward fighter. He is effective at WW because of how big he is and how well he can make weight.

      Triangle theory still holds though. Just because Spence threw more against Porter than Danny threw against Porter doesnt mean Spence will throw more against Danny.

      Spence WILL have more output than Danny because Danny is a counter-puncher but dont fall victim to triangle theory ! Because it aint always the truth !
      Did I bring up a triangle theory or say any of that or did you assume that? They said Spence was low output, all I did was show them FACTS that they were VERY WRONG.

      So Spence is just the biggest welter ever? He's a weight bully? So what was Loma at 126? Or Crawford at 135? Hell Tommy ****ing Hearns at 147? Man y'all just love to hate on the best fighters to prop up your hypejobs.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
        Here we go the Bud justice league overrating the **** out of Crawford, AGAIN. If he is the premier welterweight why does ESPN his own network not even have him ranked as the #1 welterweight. Boxrec gave Errol Spence his #3 spot in the P4P rankings.
        If you agree with BoxRec WW rankings then I assume you agree with their ATG ratings too? BoxRec has Floyd Mayweather #1 ever...psst...Floyd is not the GOAT although he is debatably Top 10-15 EVER.

        And ESPN has Crawford #2 Pound for Pound...Spence is # 5...

        Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
        If it wasn't for Lomachenko and GGG, Crawford might be the biggest hype job in the sport of boxing today.
        So Crawford is a hypejob because BoxRec and ESPN dont rate him highly but Lomachenko is a hypejob because...? Hes rated #1 Pound for Pound. What are you talking about?

        GGG might not be the GOAT MW like some fans claim but hes far from a hypejob..

        Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
        And I will bet you whatever amount of money you want, NOBODY who makes betting odds will favor Crawford over Spence, NOBODY.
        Turns out youre right...Spence is +115 to Crawfords -105...Spence is a very slight favorite. Surprising XD

        Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
        Crawford dominated 135 with a single WBO belt an no unifications? Alright bro. He fought at 140 after all the talent in the division rither moved up or was shot. Alright bro y'all got it, keep cheering for Budman!
        Why would a boxing fan not cheer for the #2 PFP fighter in the world? Crawford fights every and anyone and doesnt complain about "across the street" promotional boundaries...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
          Did I bring up a triangle theory or say any of that or did you assume that? They said Spence was low output, all I did was show them FACTS that they were VERY WRONG.

          So Spence is just the biggest welter ever? He's a weight bully? So what was Loma at 126? Or Crawford at 135? Hell Tommy ****ing Hearns at 147? Man y'all just love to hate on the best fighters to prop up your hypejobs.
          Spence is a good fighter but hes simply not the best. Still confused how or why others see him as the best WW.

          Not even convinced Spence beats old Pacman FFS...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post
            All yawl hating on Spence, including Porter, are gonna disappear like it's a magic trick or something after Garcia gets beaten senseless and stopped.
            Nah, most likely it will be Errol by decision. Errol is not stopping DSG.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by NachoMan
              As respectfully as I can say it, you might lack the ability to see nuance in this game. Watch the last five fights of Spence and Crawford. There is a big difference.
              Yeah there is a big difference. Spence has fought two top 5 welters and the P4P #7 fighter in the world... Crawford fought One legged Jose Benavidez, Amir Khan in 2019, and Green Machine who shouldn't have even been the mandatory Ray Robinson should of been.

              Y'all can like Crawford all you want to, but I can't sit here and let you all make outlandish hot takes that simply aren't true.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
                If you agree with BoxRec WW rankings then I assume you agree with their ATG ratings too? BoxRec has Floyd Mayweather #1 ever...psst...Floyd is not the GOAT although he is debatably Top 10-15 EVER.

                And ESPN has Crawford #2 Pound for Pound...Spence is # 5...



                So Crawford is a hypejob because BoxRec and ESPN dont rate him highly but Lomachenko is a hypejob because...? Hes rated #1 Pound for Pound. What are you talking about?

                GGG might not be the GOAT MW like some fans claim but hes far from a hypejob..



                Turns out youre right...Spence is +115 to Crawfords -105...Spence is a very slight favorite. Surprising XD



                Why would a boxing fan not cheer for the #2 PFP fighter in the world? Crawford fights every and anyone and doesnt complain about "across the street" promotional boundaries...
                Crawford is a hypejob because he has never fought anyone relevant yet he is called P4P #1 for unifying a trash division and being a weight bully at 135? Who has he fought, seriously who has he fought? Victor Postol and Julius Indongo aint gonna win me over bruh sorry not gonna do it. Him and his promoter CLEARLY aren't in a hurry to make these fights they claim they want, and neither is the PBC if we being honest they always wanted to let this 'marinate'. Loma is a hypejob because he was obviously a lightweight fighting featherweights and bantamweights. GGG was a hypejob because he was P4P #1 and had never even beaten anywhere close to a P4P fighter yet when he finally fought one he thought he was just gonna jab his way to victory while taking counterpunch after counterpunch after counterpunch all night and never made a single adjustment.

                Y'all have wierd taste in fighters man, these dudes y'all hype up are unimpressive as hell bruh if they were actually as good as y'all think they are they would be bigger than what they actually are.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post
                  Yeah there is a big difference. Spence has fought two top 5 welters and the P4P #7 fighter in the world... Crawford fought One legged Jose Benavidez, Amir Khan in 2019, and Green Machine who shouldn't have even been the mandatory Ray Robinson should of been.

                  Y'all can like Crawford all you want to, but I can't sit here and let you all make outlandish hot takes that simply aren't true.
                  Well, i think its fair to say that Spence beats all of Crawford's opponents up to now and vice versa. Really hope they fight this year, but not likely.

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                  • #39
                    Garcia will beat the PED abuser spence.

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                    • #40
                      garcia is dangerous for anyone with his counters. he stays in punching distance"in the pocket", once the opponent lets there hands go. we will see how spence reacts to garcia counters and timing, garcia is a beast with the no look counter left hook. i still have spence out working throughout 12, which is a no brainer.
                      Last edited by BaDaBingVIP2; 08-11-2020, 09:47 AM.

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