What racist remarks Did Paulie say to get fired?

[travestyny]

If systemic racism is weak enough that Jack Johnson could escape, or overcome it a century ago, then how is it such a force today?

Systemic racism is bullsh it. What you're saying is the majority of whites are racist. Bull.

What? I have never said the majority of whites are racist.


Can you explain this if there is no systemic racism today? This is a study done by the United States Sentencing Commission.

Black men sentenced to more time for committing the exact same crime as a white person, study finds

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

Jack Johnson didn't escape systemic racism. He was a victim of systemic racism and he succeeded despite systemic racism. There is a difference. He shouldn't have had to succeed despite it.

[GGG Gloveking]

Well, it's very easy for you to say if you never lived through it. Yes, while there has been a lot of progress in this country but yet you don't know half the shit that these other ethnic groups other than your own had to go through just to get there. It has taken them several centuries and yet we are still as a nation no closer to ethnic and racial equality as we were more than a 100 years ago. You see this is the kind of ignorance that got Paulie fired in the first place.

Can you provide some firsthand examples of the racism you have suffered? Did a teacher wrongfully fail you, or give you harder work? Did a company not hire you, in favor of a less qualified white person? Tell us, what have you lived through...

[GGG Gloveking]

What? I have never said the majority of whites are racist.


Can you explain this if there is no systemic racism today? This is a study done by the United States Sentencing Commission.

How can the system be racist, if the majority of it's components are not?

As far as the report, does it take jurisdiction, mitigating circumstances, or criminal history, into consideration? For example, recently a life sentence for a black man convicted of stealing hedge clippers was upheld. The reason is that the jurisdiction had a three-strike law, and the offender had a prior record.

[travestyny]

How can the system be racist, if the majority of it's components are not?

The majority of white people work in the court/penal system? I think the majority of the people would be white, but that doesn't mean that the majority of white people work in those fields. So I don't know how you are linking that to "most white people are racist."

The study that I pointed you to doesn't even attempt to give a reason for why the discrepancy exists. It just shows that it does indeed exist. It seems to place the blame on prosecutors without wanting to get into the reasons for prosecutors' behavior.

As far as the report, does it take jurisdiction, mitigating circumstances, or criminal history, into consideration? For example, recently a life sentence for a black man convicted of stealing hedge clippers was upheld. The reason is that the jurisdiction had a three-strike law, and the offender had a prior record.

These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.

You can check out the study yourself.

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-publications/2017/20171114_Demographics.pdf

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I’m black, Paulie kept it a buck but I’m not protesting either

[GGG Gloveking]

The majority or white people work in the court/penal system? I think the majority of the people would be white, but that doesn't mean that the majority of white people work in those fields. So I don't know how you are linking that to "most white people are racist."

The study that I pointed you to doesn't even attempt to give a reason for why the discrepancy exists. It just shows that it does indeed exist. It seems to place the blame on prosecutors without wanting to get into the reasons for prosecutors' behavior.







You can check out the study yourself.

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/f...mographics.pdf

It's either simple statistics, or there is a system of vetting racists in play. If the sample (court system) exhibits a trait (racism), then the population from which the sample was derived (all white people) should exhibit the same trait in similar proportion.

Otherwise, there has to be some type of vetting in place to eliminate the non-racists from the court sample.

And does this exist in the education field as well? Are teachers racist and oppressive as well?

[travestyny]

It's either simple statistics, or there is a system of vetting racists in play. If the sample (court system) exhibits a trait (racism), then the population from which the sample was derived (all white people) should exhibit the same trait in similar proportion.

Otherwise, there has to be some type of vetting in place to eliminate the non-racists from the court sample.

And does this exist in the education field as well? Are teachers racist and oppressive as well?

Who knows re: education? I've certainly had racist teachers. Without a doubt.


If you want to interpret the data that way, I guess you are welcome to it. But that's your conclusion, not mine. For all I know, it could be something to do with the type of people who want to be prosecutors. Are they a reflection of the average White person? I can't tell you. I don't really know what to tell you other than that study is surely problematic.

[GGG Gloveking]

Who knows re: education? I've certainly had racist teachers. Without a doubt.


If you want to interpret the data that way, I guess you are welcome to it. But that's your conclusion, not mine. For all I know, it could be something to do with the type of people who want to be prosecutors. Are they a reflection of the average White person? I can't tell you. I don't really know what to tell you other than that study is surely problematic.

I do interpret the data that way, that our system is a reflection of our society. I don't believe that only certain ideologies are attracted to certain jobs. That's my problem with saying our system is currently racist. To me, that's saying that the majority of society is racist, which I just can't agree with.

Anyway, gotta get ready for work. Good talking to you, it's been a while

[travestyny]

I do interpret the data that way, that our system is a reflection of our society. I don't believe that only certain ideologies are attracted to certain jobs. That's my problem with saying our system is currently racist. To me, that's saying that the majority of society is racist, which I just can't agree with.

Anyway, gotta get ready for work. Good talking to you, it's been a while

Yea, man. I appreciated the conversation as well. Hopefully we can keep it respectful. Enjoy your day, brotha!

[Squ□redCircle34]

You're an absolute moron, no one ever said it never existed and the term systemic racism is only used by black supremacists to justify their own racism so why should he agree with its current use which is abhorrent?

You’re an absolute liar and unsympathetic dingleberry!

Paulie just said systematic racism doesn’t exist and you just said no ever said it never existed when in fact, many have the same views as Paulie which it seems that you also share!

Not believing racism doesn’t exist or not talking about it is what justifies racists and bigots to act the way they do to other ethnicities!

Nice try, other ethnicities particularly those with melanin in other continents an countries have voiced about systematic racism and prejudice so no it’s not just only “black supremacists” as you so believe!

Like I said, fish bowl mentality!

You agree with Paulie then fûçk you too!