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  • #11
    Frazier was not a lean guy by then he was about 224 which is roughly 20 pounds over weight from his 205 prime fight ideal weight and still managed to hit Foreman clean .

    Mike was a super fast counter puncher at 215 and 220 anyone putting nostalgic views aside would see Tyson is to fast for a bombarding Foreman and would have the superior gas tank as well .

    Tyson takes it more then not each probably get a win but they wouldn’t fight enough times for a Foreman win on record ,I believe Mike would have to come in unmotivated and have not trained properly to even this one out . It would take more then being bigger and Foreman would be real small for some Tyson fought over the 6”3 mark and then the weight factor isn’t much but a few pounds ,people forget how compact Mike was and still is in remarkable shape down to 230 now at 54. I saw both guys coming up live they both had similar reputations but Mike was perceived more invincible in the years were comparing here ,he has less holes in his game that’s just a fact .

    Tyson stops Foreman before mid rounds ,it would be Ron Lyle like but Tyson avoids getting hit much and is the better finisher then Foreman early on .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-02-2020, 06:49 PM.
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    • #12
      I got prime tyson winning! tyson in his prime was an absolute freak of nature with speed and power in both hands he was also good defensively he had great defensive head movement. prime foreman was knocked out by ali who was not a puncher and ron lyle dropped him multiple times and nearly knocked him out!
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      • #13
        Easiest fantasy matchup to predict. Foreman by KO within 2. P4p physically strongest grappler vs weakest grappler, he would man handle and place Tyson for his bombs and there would be nothing Tyson could do.

        You could say Foreman was an expert at beating a Mike Tyson.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BKM- View Post
          Easiest fantasy matchup to predict. Foreman by KO within 2. P4p physically strongest grappler vs weakest grappler, he would man handle and place Tyson for his bombs and there would be nothing Tyson could do.

          You could say Foreman was an expert at beating a Mike Tyson.
          Tyson trained with Olympic wrestlers for Bruno to push a guy bigger then Foreman backward. None of what you say is actually true . Tyson gave his opponent a choice either get knocked out badly or cling for dear life , Foreman would have tired doing this ,even light puncher Jimmy Young tired him out there and knocked him down . No one in boxing history would defeat him without setting up shots , Foreman threw punches wildly from a mile away when throwing power and caused him to rapidly tire , MIke is not going to be an underdog here .
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-02-2020, 06:59 PM.
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          • #15
            Foreman’s mentor was Sonny Liston. He would not have been scared or intimidated by Tyson nor would he have backed off of him. Easy KO win for George.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
              Tyson trained with Olympic wrestlers for Bruno to push a guy bigger then Foreman backward. None of what you say is actually true . Tyson gave his opponent a choice either get knocked out badly or cling for dear life , Foreman would have tired doing this ,even light puncher Jimmy Young tired him out there and knocked him down . No one in boxing history would defeat him without setting up shots , Foreman threw punches wildly from a mile away when throwing power and caused him to rapidly tire , MIke is not going to be an underdog here .
              Give me a source for Tyson training with olympic wrestlers because I find that extraordinary considering Tyson was so unbelievably weak and unskilled in the grappling department. He had zero leverage in the clinch and got man-handled by almost every opponent he faced.

              Watch this video on Foreman. He was absolute poison for Tyson. Mike would be shocked and clueless as he'd find himself on the backfoot every moment of the fight. He would have no clue what to do except eat monster punches because he can't fight going backwards.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                Give me a source for Tyson training with olympic wrestlers because I find that extraordinary considering Tyson was so unbelievably weak and unskilled in the grappling department. He had zero leverage in the clinch and got man-handled by almost every opponent he faced.

                Watch this video on Foreman. He was absolute poison for Tyson. Mike would be shocked and clueless as he'd find himself on the backfoot every moment of the fight. He would have no clue what to do except eat monster punches because he can't fight going backwards.

                post some proof of this happening against multiple opponents. lol all of sudden mike was a weakling according to you. that's laughable. foreman himself got tied up and grappled by the smaller ali rather easily. young was able to do it as well and frustrated him to hell. foreman's not this master clincher.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by DaBeastO View Post
                  post some proof of this happening against multiple opponents. lol all of sudden mike was a weakling according to you. that's laughable. foreman himself got tied up and grappled by the smaller ali rather easily. young was able to do it as well and frustrated him to hell. foreman's not this master clincher.
                  Ali himself was extremely strong, don't let his flashy style in younger days fool you(although you are a fool) because that man could grapple with the best of them. And he was actually the same size as Foreman save a few pounds.

                  If Foreman got taken to deep waters by slick fighters, he could tire and and indeed his clinch game would suffer.

                  Tyson does not present that style. He is EXACTLY what Foreman wants to face. Plays right into his arms. The WORST matchup Tyson could ever dream of.

                  Watch the video I posted, and watch any Tyson fight. Especially the Holyfield fights, Evander completely man handled him. You know what Evander said after he fought Foreman? he said Foreman is the strongest guy he has ever faced and it was impossible to move him! This is a guy who did great clinch work against giant 6'5 245lb Lennox lewis but he couldn't budge big George..
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                    Give me a source for Tyson training with olympic wrestlers because I find that extraordinary considering Tyson was so unbelievably weak and unskilled in the grappling department. He had zero leverage in the clinch and got man-handled by almost every opponent he faced.

                    Watch this video on Foreman. He was absolute poison for Tyson. Mike would be shocked and clueless as he'd find himself on the backfoot every moment of the fight. He would have no clue what to do except eat monster punches because he can't fight going backwards.

                    I’m not going fishing for sources ,I remember clearly his preparation for Bruno and wanted to work the clinch game pushing him back because Bruno trained with weights back then and wanted to match strength with him . You’re a known hater so it would be a waste of my time but besides that Foreman is not comparable to Mike he only had 2 title defenses and those guys were not as good as who Mike defeated as a 10 time defending champion. Jimmy Young simply wouldn’t pose any threat to Mike and Foreman relied on size ,this is the opposite of Mike who did everything better .

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      I’m not going fishing for sources ,I remember clearly his preparation for Bruno and wanted to work the clinch game pushing him back because Bruno trained with weights back then and wanted to match strength with him . You’re a known hater so it would be a waste of my time but besides that Foreman is not comparable to Mike he only had 2 title defenses and those guys were not as good as who Mike defeated as a 10 time defending champion. Jimmy Young simply wouldn’t pose any threat to Mike and Foreman relied on size ,this is the opposite of Mike who did everything better .
                      Alright well come back to me when your deluded fantasy becomes real and you find these sources of 'Tyson training with olympic wrestlers'. LOL.

                      Nobody who knows boxing would ever pick him over George Foreman. Everyone knows the latter eats up forward-only offense fighters.
                      Last edited by BKM-; 08-02-2020, 07:40 PM.

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