PBC upcoming PPV fights, any info on fighters' guarantees?

**Thuglife Nelo** · 08-01-2020, 08:13 AM

The new guarantee measure is whatever PPV they sell!

Think about it. Fox on PBC is more commercial than privatized. Haymon can’t sell a closed fight to the networks. They simply aren’t interested. So they have to do PPV. Assume a network like Fox devalues the purchase if Haymon insists, but selling boxing with no attendees on TV is too risky for a commercial sector like Fox.

Even Showtime Boxing has to devalue purchasing of the fights. Hence PPV.

I don’t think Haymon wants to invest his own money because there’s no telling how long the pandemic goes. He rather salvage his budget for future use.

**rickJen** · 08-01-2020, 08:20 AM

No, doesn't work that way.
Fighters, managers usually insist on guarantees.

Networks would rather not do it on PPV, why,
because they don't get a cent due to the high percentage
going to the distributors.
(Which is why subcription-based models are superior because there are no middlemen,
and the income goes directly into the platform's, whatever it is, pockets.)

Only reason why they're on PPV is because of greed.
Greed coming from fighters, managers, promoters.

And so the way to convince greedy fighters is to say,
"Well, you get your extra money if the fight sells."

That way no one is to blame but them, like giving fans
a boring fight or a mismatched one. You get the point.

**rickJen** · 08-01-2020, 08:31 AM

So how much is Leo Santa Cruz guaranteed in his fight with Tank Davis?

$2 million?

**rickJen** · 08-01-2020, 08:37 AM

For those who say Lopez is being lowballed, let's compare.
(The media needs to do their damn part. Where is Coppinger here?)

Would you say Leo Santa Cruz is more popular than Lopez?

If so, how much would he be getting in the Davis fight?
Is he the B-side, is it 50/50, etc? Unanswered questions...

**Thuglife Nelo** · 08-01-2020, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by genrick

For those who say Lopez is being lowballed, let's compare.
(The media needs to do their damn part. Where is Coppinger here?)

Would you say Leo Santa Cruz is more popular than Lopez?

If so, how much would he be getting in the Davis fight?
Is he the B-side, is it 50/50, etc? Unanswered questions...

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**Motorcity Cobra** · 08-01-2020, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by genrick

Why is there no info on this?
Is PBC so damn secretive that the media have zero access
on things that are normal when it comes to other promoters
like TR, DAZN, GBP, Matchroom...

Jermall vs Derevyanchenko

Davis vs Santa Cruz

Garcia vs Spence

How much are they guaranteed?

Aren't you interested in comparing them with others
that are on the other side of the street?

/

It's not that they're secretive it's that they don't leak to the press ****ting on their fighters like the other companies do. Who do you think told Coppinger what Teofimo turned down to make him look like he was ducking? Top Rank of course.

**rickJen** · 08-01-2020, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra

It's not that they're secretive it's that they don't leak to the press ****ting on their fighters like the other companies do. Who do you think told Coppinger what Teofimo turned down to make him look like he was ducking? Top Rank of course.

So in your opinion how much guarantee would LSC get in the Davis fight?
Do you think Lopez is getting lowballed?

Why would you assume fans would be more sympathetic to TR
to leak something that they knew would probably put them in hot water?
Aren't fans usually more sympathetic to fighters, especially when it involves
non PBC promoters, TR, DAZN, Hearn, etc.

**Motorcity Cobra** · 08-01-2020, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by genrick

So in your opinion how much guarantee would LSC get in the Davis fight?

I'd say his guarantee (key word) is around $2 mil.

Originally posted by genrick

Do you think Lopez is getting lowballed?

A unification fight against one of the top fighters in the world? Yes he's being lowballed. Beterbiev and Gvozdyk made more than Teo and aren't even half as known.

Originally posted by genrick

Why would you assume fans would be more sympathetic to TR
to leak something that they knew would probably put them in hot water?
Aren't fans usually more sympathetic to fighters, especially when it involves
non PBC promoters, TR, DAZN, Hearn, etc.

All i'm seeing is "Teo is ducking after he called out Lomachenko" or "That's more money than Teo has ever made he needs to take the fight" I"m not seeing a lot of sympathy for Teo. This is Top Rank's pattern. Whenever a fighter turns down a fight they leak the figures to the media to show they tried to make the fight but one guy turned it down.

**rickJen** · 08-01-2020, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra

I'd say his guarantee (key word) is around $2 mil.

A unification fight against one of the top fighters in the world? Yes he's being lowballed. Beterbiev and Gvozdyk made more than Teo and aren't even half as known.

All i'm seeing is "Teo is ducking after he called out Lomachenko" or "That's more money than Teo has ever made he needs to take the fight" I"m not seeing a lot of sympathy for Teo. This is Top Rank's pattern. Whenever a fighter turns down a fight they leak the figures to the media to show they tried to make the fight but one guy turned it down.

I know you don't like everything non-PBC/Haymon.
You're as predictable as PBC fighters winning in showcase fights.
You know damn well splits don't depend as much on titles as popularity.
You can have all the titles in the world like Lara once did and
you'll still not be able to draw flies to s****.

So how popular is LSC compared to Lopez?

PBC upcoming PPV fights, any info on fighters' guarantees?