If Manny fights and beats Crawford

[aboutfkntime]

Can't rank someone yet who is still actively fighting and when its all said and done they will.

There is a reason why Ali is ranked above Marciano even thou Marciano retired undefeated as a HW..

Ali is greater than Marciano because...

1) Ali has better quality wins
2) Ali has a better body of work

just like Mayweather over Pacquiao

if Ali had retired undefeated... he would be greater than Marciano for the same 3 reasons that Mayweather is greater than Pacquiao

1) better quality wins
2) better body of work
3) no losses, despite facing TOP competition

the difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is greater than the distance between Ali and Marciano... Pac is not even on Floyd's level historically

like I said, this is just the usual pac-nonsense that we see on this site

it's not even that close tbh

[daggum]

Ali is greater than Marciano because...

1) Ali has better quality wins
2) Ali has a better body of work

just like Mayweather over Pacquiao

if Ali had retired undefeated... he would be greater than Marciano for the same 3 reasons that Mayweather is greater than Pacquiao

1) better quality wins
2) better body of work
3) no losses, despite facing TOP competition

the difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is greater than the distance between Ali and Marciano... Pac is not even on Floyd's level historically

like I said, this is just the usual pac-nonsense that we see on this site

it's not even that close tbh

problem is floyd doesnt have better wins or a better body of work so what you are saying doesnt really add up. you are entitled to your opinion which i dont respect but hey it is yours so you go on and be your post-modernist self.

and head to head pac also deserved the win but you will pretend lifeless jabs that dont even land are better than head rocking shots but we already know you will play flippity floppity man when it comes to scoring fights so thats not surprise. floyd didnt deserve to win every fight just like pac didnt. when you look at total resume i dont see how you can say floyd fought better competition. when you take the politics out of it floyd lost to pac and castillo and pac didnt lose to bradley or horn so their resumes are much more even if you are a "stat guy"

floyds best wins are a drained canelo and a guy jeff horn beat right after hmmm yeah that doesnt sound too great. body of work is long but not all that impressive when most of them are baldomir level guys between corrales and canelo. where did his career go? and pacs career is even longer and filled with better highs while maintaining a solid level throughout(remember they won titles at the same time and floyd retired for almost 2 years to avoid guys, and then retired again before pac) so i dont know what you mean by floyd has a better body of work. seems like you are just saying empty platitudes

[hugh grant]

the difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is greater than the distance between Ali and Marciano... Pac is not even on Floyd's level historically

like I said, this is just the usual pac-nonsense that we see on this site

it's not even that close tbh

Honest, is something you certainly arent. Pac s greater than floyd for same reason bh is greater than jc.
But Pac s further in front of Floyd than bh is in front of jc

[daggum]

Honest, is something you certainly arent. Pac s greater than floyd for same reason bh is greater than jc.
But Pac s further in front of Floyd than bh is in front of jc

no one is in front of calzaghe

[aboutfkntime]

problem is floyd doesnt have better wins or a better body of work so what you are saying doesnt really add up. you are entitled to your opinion which i dont respect but hey it is yours so you go on and be your post-modernist self.

and head to head pac also deserved the win but you will pretend lifeless jabs that dont even land are better than head rocking shots but we already know you will play flippity floppity man when it comes to scoring fights so thats not surprise. floyd didnt deserve to win every fight just like pac didnt. when you look at total resume i dont see how you can say floyd fought better competition.

floyds best wins are a drained canelo and a guy jeff horn beat right after hmmm yeah that doesnt sound too great. body of work is long but not all that impressive when most of them are baldomir level guys between corrales and canelo. where did his career go?

FACT: Mayweather has 3x wins better than anyone on Pac's resume

that is the end of the discussion right there, Floyd is greater

FACT: Mayweather also has a better body-of-work, beating better competition

that further distances Mayweather above Pacquiao

FACT: Mayweather suffered no shocking ko's... or any losses at all

not..... even..... close.....

no genuine historian would rate Pacquiao higher than Mayweather

like I said..... not..... even..... close.....

[redmish]

Thats a massive IF though, isn't it? I would take Crawford all day long if that fight happens. IF manny won it would be incredible.

[daggum]

FACT: Mayweather has 3x wins better than anyone on Pac's resume

that is the end of the discussion right there, Floyd is greater

FACT: Mayweather also has a better body-of-work, beating better competition

that further distances Mayweather above Pacquiao

FACT: Mayweather suffered no shocking ko's... or any losses at all

not..... even..... close.....

no genuine historian would rate Pacquiao higher than Mayweather

like I said..... not..... even..... close.....

those arent facts though. those are your opinions. yeah because if any historian or expert said pac that automatically makes them not "genuine" we know how your mind works or doesnt work. shouldnt you be saying how great pac is to make floyds win(although he really lost) over pac look better? i dont get the whole floyd is so much better than pac stance. it just makes floyd look worse for fighting a run down pac who wasnt even close to his level according to you.

[aboutfkntime]

those arent facts though. those are your opinions. yeah because if any historian or expert said pac that automatically makes them not "genuine" we know how your mind works or doesnt work.

uh, no son... they are cold hard facts, not even debateable

FACT: Mayweather has 3x wins on his resume, that are far better than anything on Pac's resume

that is the end of the discussion right there

FACT: Mayweather climbed higher mountains than Pacquiao

that is LITERALLY how you define greatness

WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how

also having a better body of work overall, and retiring undefeated after facing better competition... are just more cherries on top

not..... even..... close.....

[Fists_of_Fury]

Crawford is not a top welterweight until he fights and beats a top welterweight imo. I view him as a top 10 p4p fighter but not top 3. Crawford's resume isn't that good overall. His welterweight resume is pure dog ****. He is an overrated hype job cherry picker. I think Pacquiao knocks him out. Crawford is packing a glass jaw. He was put on ***** street by inactive and blown up Gamboa who was at a massive size disadvantage. He was also just dropped by Eurobum Mean Machine. There's a reason he stays hiding at Top Rank with ESPN exclusivity cherry picking faded former champs, b class or lower trinket holders, and bums.

[aboutfkntime]

Crawford is not a top welterweight until he fights and beats a top welterweight imo. I view him as a top 10 p4p fighter but not top 3. Crawford's resume isn't that good overall. His welterweight resume is pure dog ****. He is an overrated hype job cherry picker. I think Pacquiao knocks him out. Crawford is packing a glass jaw. He was put on ***** street by inactive and blown up Gamboa who was at a massive size disadvantage. He was also just dropped by Eurobum Mean Machine. There's a reason


he stays hiding at Top Rank with ESPN exclusivity cherry picking faded former champs, b class or lower trinket holders, and bums.

I don't believe any of that garbage

Horn rag-dolled Pac... yet, Crawford outclassed/exposed Horn

it is obvious why Pacquiao has avoided Crawford so far, despite the fact that they were both Top Rank fighters

Pac knows whats up with Crawford