Comments Thread For: Arum: We'd Like To Do Pacquiao-Crawford For 11/14 Or 11/21; Nothing Concrete

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tap jab.. not really throwing with any intention.. every time manny inch closer, floyd would extend his arms out to tap manny. that's why he "threw so many punches". because half of those over 200+ were tapping jabs.

on the other post you acknowledged that pac hardly threw punches, if mayweather was just landing taps, then why could pac walk through them to land his own shots? Pac was way more passive than Floyd and he was ineffective. We all knew what Floyds style was going into the fight. It was pacs job to be able to overcome that style and he couldn't, because he wasn't good enough. Cotto forced mayweather to fight, maidana forced mayweather to fight, pac couldn't because he was unwilling to take the risks that those other 2 did. If you want to be mad at that fight being uneventful, blame pac because he didn't throw or land enough.

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1. I've heard Roach ******ly say pac can beat 100s of guys that he can't beat, BUT... how many have you heard him say he didn't want pac to fight because the guy was the real deal besides Crawford? Exactly

Doesn't matter what horns coach said, it was about being dominant, not about how hurt someone was, especially if they recovered as horn did vs pac. Crawford dominated horn for every second of the fight. Horn was in a competitive back and forth fight with pac. Damn, aren't you tired of getting embarrassed? Lmaooo

The thing is, I mean, he is a good fighter. I do respect him. He’s a very good boxer. He can move. He can run like hell if he wants to. But can he beat Manny? I don’t think so.”

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if you don't want to read the back and forth, then just mind your fkn business. Don't get all butt hurt because I'm not a pac groupie. I'm a boxing fan who knows the sport and if pac finally decides to face Crawford, you'll see him get washed. End of story.

It's a boxing forum and you shouldn't get upset or emotional cos I call you out on your BS. There's a reason why you are in a back and forth with most on here calling out your BS. Your hate is keeping blinders on you to see the reality of how the fight could play out. A "boxing fan" as u claim to be will see how the fight could play out on ether side and not just make outlandish statements like 'Crawford will murder Pac' like a non boxing fan will say. Am just saying.

[IceTrayDaGang]

on the other post you acknowledged that pac hardly threw punches, if mayweather was just landing taps, then why could pac walk through them to land his own shots? Pac was way more passive than Floyd and he was ineffective. We all knew what Floyds style was going into the fight. It was pacs job to be able to overcome that style and he couldn't, because he wasn't good enough. Cotto forced mayweather to fight, maidana forced mayweather to fight, pac couldn't because he was unwilling to take the risks that those other 2 did. If you want to be mad at that fight being uneventful, blame pac because he didn't throw or land enough.

serious???? yes, floyd was throwing tapping jabs to keep pac off for the most part but if manny just goes in face first then of course he's gonna get smack with a power shot. geezus bruh.. you really just asked that question?

and pac throwing less = floyd being very defensive! which is why i said defensive fighters are the only one that can beat manny! and you just said crawford doesnt fight like that so that's why i said he will not be manny then!

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but roach also said if crawford is the fight for pac then roach will get pac ready and they will beat crawford. why you left that part out? lmao!!!

so now horn's trainer doesnt matter? but didnt you just said that pac went life and death with horn? but horn's trainer is actually saying horn was more hurt against pac than he was against crawford!

“Manny will fight anybody,” Roach said. “Obviously, we thought we could get Mayweather again. That’s the fight he wants most because he’s 100-percent healthy and he feels good

Roach respects Crawford’s ability, but doesn’t think he is ready to topple Pacquiao, particularly at 147 pounds, the weight at which Roach wants them to fight. He suspects Arum wants to use an aging Pacquiao’s star power to help build Crawford into a bigger attraction.

The thing is, I mean, he is a good fighter. I do respect him. He’s a very good boxer. He can move. He can run like hell if he wants to. But can he beat Manny? I don’t think so.”

Roach has remained consistent that he doesn't like Crawford for pac and its not a fight he wants pac to take. Make up all the fake narratives you want but there is video proof to back that up.

As far as horns trainer, he never said pac did better against horn than Crawford, he mentioned how horn was hurt in the 9th. But in that fight he was competitive so the ref gave him a chance to prove himself. Vs Crawford, horn may not have been as physically hurt as he was late vs pac , but he wasn't even competitive with Crawford. He was getting dominated and had 0 chance of winning. That's why the fight was stopped.

Of course they want the mayweather rematch, they got embarrassed the first time. Floyd is retired, pac had his chance and he blew it.

Arum was trying to protect pac from Crawford. He figured he could make more money off of pac before Crawford ended pacs career, but it backfired thanks to Jeff the Hornet Horn.

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It's a boxing forum and you shouldn't get upset or emotional cos I call you out on your BS. There's a reason why you are in a back and forth with most on here calling out your BS. Your hate is keeping blinders on you to see the reality of how the fight could play out. A "boxing fan" as u claim to be will see how the fight could play out on ether side and not just make outlandish statements like 'Crawford will murder Pac' like a non boxing fan will say. Am just saying.

it's a forum but there should be some sense involved. If you don't know the context of someone's comment, just mind your business. It makes you look ****** to interject when you don't know where the comment stems from. I know styles make fights and emphasized that Crawfords style will destroy a 41 yr old pac. He won't just eek out a decision, he's going to beat the living shet out of him. He's mean, he's aggressive and isn't damaged goods like a Thurman or an overhyped Broner. No 41 yr old is going to even come close to beating him at 147.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Roach has remained consistent that he doesn't like Crawford for pac and its not a fight he wants pac to take. Make up all the fake narratives you want but there is video proof to back that up.

As far as horns trainer, he never said pac did better against horn than Crawford, he mentioned how horn was hurt in the 9th. But in that fight he was competitive so the ref gave him a chance to prove himself. Vs Crawford, horn may not have been as physically hurt as he was late vs pac , but he wasn't even competitive with Crawford. He was getting dominated and had 0 chance of winning. That's why the fight was stopped.

Of course they want the mayweather rematch, they got embarrassed the first time. Floyd is retired, pac had his chance and he blew it.

Arum was trying to protect pac from Crawford. He figured he could make more money off of pac before Crawford ended pacs career, but it backfired thanks to Jeff the Hornet Horn.

fake??? wtf?? those were direct quotes from roach! you just mad i been exposing your lies... you post off emotions where as i actually post off direct facts. i've been posting straight quotes from roach and horn's trainer.

if arum was trying to protect pac from crawford by making the horn fight, then why didnt arum feed pac to crawford after pac loss to horn??!!! lol!!!! so was crawford not under arum? why would arum protect an old fading fighter that was gonna leave him at the end of his contract from his rising star? that's not bob's memo.. lmao! THINK MAN!

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serious???? yes, floyd was throwing tapping jabs to keep pac off for the most part but if manny just goes in face first then of course he's gonna get smack with a power shot. geezus bruh.. you really just asked that question?

and pac throwing less = floyd being very defensive! which is why i said defensive fighters are the only one that can beat manny! and you just said crawford doesnt fight like that so that's why i said he will not be manny then!

have you ever been in the ring? Obviously not. As most pac fans, your only experience with boxing is just watching him and jumping on your sofa like a cheerleader while watching. You just said mayweather landed primarily taps. If you're in a fight and the opponent doesn't gain your respect with power, you go at them. But pac was getting popped in his face with enough authority and sharp shots that he was hesitant to be aggressive. Mayweather made pac hesitant, not the other way around. As I mentioned, mayweather threw more punches vs pac than he did vs the other opponents that he faced in the 2 fights before facing pac, and the fight right after. Stop contradicting yourself. First you say mayweather was throwing taps but then admit Pacquiao didn't want to get hit with power shots. Make up your mind.

[IceTrayDaGang]

have you ever been in the ring? Obviously not. As most pac fans, your only experience with boxing is just watching him and jumping on your sofa like a cheerleader while watching. You just said mayweather landed primarily taps. If you're in a fight and the opponent doesn't gain your respect with power, you go at them. But pac was getting popped in his face with enough authority and sharp shots that he was hesitant to be aggressive. Mayweather made pac hesitant, not the other way around. As I mentioned, mayweather threw more punches vs pac than he did vs the other opponents that he faced in the 2 fights before facing pac, and the fight right after. Stop contradicting yourself. First you say mayweather was throwing taps but then admit Pacquiao didn't want to get hit with power shots. Make up your mind.

i think it's you who's never been in a ring.. just because someone is throwing pitty pat punches doesnt mean his opponent can just walk right in! those could be traps for something BIGGER!!!! which is why it slowed down manny's work rate because it became a thinking fight. but if an opponent comes to manny, that's his bread and butter! geezus man! do you even box bro? lol.

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it should be pac vs spence now.

It should be Spence vs Bud right now but that ain't happening. Spence wants a comeback fight and I'll be surprised if DSG is even the next for him. I'd almost wager he takes a soft touch as a post car wreck fight.