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  • BodyBagz
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    #291
    Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
    Another fantasy match-up? Ok

    I go with Pac

    I love fantasy match-ups btw
    But they never fought !

    How can you entertain such a thought ?!?!?

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      #292
      Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
      You try to excuse with ‘illogical’ just insert your ‘what if’ and make it work? Look, you can speculate all you want but truth of the matter is - it didn’t happen.

      It must have been frustrating to think that Floyd could have beaten Tony had they got into the ring but it just didn’t happen

      But don’t worry - May beats Marg in fantasy match-ups. I will not disagree anymore. Its just that.....

      No evidence except our imagination. Lol
      Originally posted by BodyBagz
      Quick

      Pac vs Gatti....who wins ?
      Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
      Another fantasy match-up? Ok

      I go with Pac

      I love fantasy match-ups btw
      See how it works ?

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      • Ca$ual Fan
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        #293
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        But they never fought !

        How can you entertain such a thought ?!?!?
        Yup, they didn’t fight. Pac doesn’t credit against Gatti cause it didn’t happen.

        But fantasizing the match-up isn’t bad at all

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          #294
          Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
          Yup, they didn’t fight. Pac doesn’t credit against Gatti cause it didn’t happen.

          But fantasizing the match-up isn’t bad at all
          And if someone were to say Pac ducked Gatti, you would obviously agree.

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            #295
            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            And if someone were to say Pac ducked Gatti, you would obviously agree.
            I agree providing that they were both at the top of the division and they didn’t fight

            They were at the wrong timelines at different divisions. So there’s obviously no convo between the 2

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              #296
              Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
              If you do this, same should also apply to Floyd, especially against Pac and Canelo. How many losses was Dela Hoya and Judah away?

              Why don’t we just do this to every fighter then?
              Ok lets do it against Floyd resume fight for fight, I will bet what ever you like Mannys resume breaks down where Floyds doesnt, start a thread anytime you like , resume for resume fight for fight, weights measures and a breakdown of form going into each fight, nobody is perfect but I will show you how many snakes and ladders are in Mannys resume.

              You mention Oscar, do you not understand there was 20 lbs difference in Oscar that Floyd fought, 14lbs difference in Cotto, you think it doesnt matter lol you dont know boxing if you cant see the difference in the two versions.

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                #297
                Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                I agree providing that they were both at the top of the division and they didn’t fight

                They were at the wrong timelines at different divisions. So there’s obviously no convo between the 2
                You're saying WBO champ Gatti (if he was one) would have beaten WW Pac ?

                Being the best isn't speculative. It is proven.

                Sometimes dots can be connected.
                (May's resume is 100000000x better than Margarito. Margarito was NEVER p4p king)

                Sometimes triangle theories make sense.
                (Mosley CRUSHED Margarito, May beat up Mosley from the 2nd round on and beat Pac without losing an eye)

                No unbiased, self thinking fight fan would put money on Margarito beating May.

                Just like no one in their right mind would put money on Gatti beating Pac.

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                  #298
                  A typical Pac fan statement -
                  ''How can May be great if he hasn't KO'd a guy blahblahblah. To be great you need many KOs blahblahblah.''

                  I mentioned how few KO's Pac has since moving up. No reply
                  I asked what are their KO %'s. No answer

                  And Pac fans wonder why I made this thread

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                    #299
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Let the games begin

                    Look at this puny MFer -


                    ''Will fight for table scraps.''

                    Look at the shlttier puny MFers he fought -
                    1st 30 opponents (AKA Farmers and Food Vendors) collective record -
                    W 366-L 195-D 53

                    Before we get all giddy and say ''Look at all of the wins his opponents accumulated !''
                    Accumulated is the operative word here -

                    The Legends;
                    Jamili 41-5
                    Sasakul 32-1-1
                    Chockvivat 34-2
                    Medina 30-30
                    Prawet 40-3
                    177 wins from these 5 ATGs alone.

                    189 wins from the remaining 25 killers (an avg 7 1/2 wins per)

                    Pac's record vs those Farmers and Food vendors -
                    28-2 (2 TKO);22 kos
                    Won WBC fly weight ( ) title from Sasakul.
                    Got KO'd his next fight vs Sangsurat (18-0)
                    Picked up a WBCI (?) SBW. Defended it 2x

                    Yeah, I know. What guy doesn't start off their career feasting off of BUMS (Pac has a high number, though) ?!?!?!

                    Let's proceed -
                    1st name that pops out and is sorta talked about like some AGT -
                    Ledwaba 33-1-1 (when Pac fought him)
                    Let's take a look at his best wins - NOBODY
                    Pac fought him for his IBF (legit) SBW title
                    Pac KHTKO
                    To look at Ledwaba's resume, it's pretty lame.
                    Truth be told, I don't follow these midgets, so who knows.

                    Several fight later, Pac is up against a legit guy, albeit SHOPWORN
                    MAB (57-3). An old-ish 30. Not shot but definitely not prime.
                    While Pac was chewing up a bunch of ?'s, MAB was in wars.

                    From this point on, Pac is stepping up his game (can't get any lamer this far into a persons resume).

                    So, for now, I want to see if I have this right or am I a hater ?
                    You’ve posted over 4000 times in 6 months man.
                    Your posting an average of 23 times a day or more for 6 months without a break.
                    No one on this site values your opinion. You are not a boxing historian. No one cares about you rubbishing any fighter, because in the end what difference would it make

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                    • BodyBagz
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                      #300
                      Originally posted by kingstip9
                      (Some post count observations)
                      Try observing Pac's shltty resume

                      Did you join only so you can go around and cry in someone's thread ?

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