I think we can all agree, Prime Mike Tyson stops AJ in one round

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  • MartialMind
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    #31
    Originally posted by Smash
    nah prime ruiz took 7
    Had he not finished a large Taco Bell combo just before the fight he probably would have only needed 3.

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    • megh50
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      #32
      Apart from Douglas, Tyson's most significant losses were to Lewis and Holyfield whom he had sparred with before. A prime Tyson's style is something, if you hadn't seen or experienced before, would be very hard to beat the first time. Only Ruddock was able to do better the second time against Mike in a rematch...excluding his loss to Holyfield. I said all that to say that I don't think Josh could handle the intensity Mike brought to the table. Josh would panic. He would do better in a rematch, but would lose the first. I think it would go like the fights with Ruddock. However, Josh would have been the biggest fighter Tyson would have faced in a pro fight at 6'6"....without knowing all the people he sparred with of course.

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      • sugar ray lenrd
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        #33
        Originally posted by Angeljuice
        AJ is better than Frank Bruno and Tyson took 6 rounds to finish him. No chance your scenario is right.
        Tyson in his prime was very quick, much quicker & hit harder to than Ruiz. Tyson by ko!

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        • Coreytrevor12
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          #34
          Originally posted by Scopedog
          I don't think it's a guarantee. If Tyson could lose to Buster Douglas then he could lose to Joshua imo. I wouldn't put money on Joshua or anything but I wouldn't bet on Tyson knocking him out in one round either.
          I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike

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          • Pretty Boy32
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            #35
            Originally posted by Coreytrevor12
            I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike
            We talking about a prime mike here Corey.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Scopedog
              I don't think it's a guarantee. If Tyson could lose to Buster Douglas then he could lose to Joshua imo. I wouldn't put money on Joshua or anything but I wouldn't bet on Tyson knocking him out in one round either.
              I agree. AJ could certainly follow that blueprint and have some success. I tend to think that a fully focused Tyson would get to him eventually, however the fight would get interesting if it went to the later rounds.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Coreytrevor12
                I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike
                I went to Boxrec to take a look back at Tyson's opponents during his prime (1986-1990, or from the Berbick fight to his loss against Buster Douglas), and here is what I found:

                Tyson weighed between 215 and 221 for those fights so let's just average it out to 218.

                All of his opponents held significant height and reach advantages, however Tyson especially destroyed guys who weighed under 220. (4 KO's, 3 within the first two rounds)

                Of course he handled everyone else too, however the guys who weighed in the high 220's and 230's fared better against him on average.

                Tyson's two toughest opponents during this stretch were James "Bonecrusher" Smith (6'4" with 82" reach, 233 lbs.) and Buster Douglas (just under 6'4" with 83" reach, 231 lbs.)

                Anthony Joshua is 6'6" with an 82" reach, and he has weighed in the low to mid 240's for his last five fights. Even the super-slimmed down version of AJ still weighed 237, which is heavier than all of Tyson's opponents during his prime run.

                Does that mean AJ would win? No, but it does tell me that AJ probably wouldn't get stopped in a single round. The more likely outcome is that Joshua would go some rounds like Tyrell Biggs did
                Last edited by whollisboxing; 08-11-2020, 01:38 PM.

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                • OnlytheTruth
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                  #38
                  I wonder if Fury had lost to Ruiz or Wilder what that would have done to this forum.

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                  • OnlytheTruth
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                    #39
                    It’s a total coin flip of a fight. Joshua has a lot of natural advantages against Mike.

                    This loss to Ruiz has everyone forgetting that Joshua is a professional boxer and doesn’t get into the ring for a tickling competition.

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                    • Sheldon312
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                      #40
                      Styles make fights so I favor AJ who is better than Buster Douglas

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