How come WADA doesn’t have Regulation/Revision for Nandrolone’s Meat Contamination?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    How come WADA doesn’t have Regulation/Revision for Nandrolone’s Meat Contamination?

    There’s no publication in WADA for regulation or revision thresholds regarding NANDROLONE’S meat contamination. Why is that?

    I mean, wild boar testicles get no love
    Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 07-20-2020, 01:39 AM.
  • BLASTER1
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    #2
    Everyone knows that it was a straight out excuse for Fury failing his test.
    Cmon now you dont think their seriously gonna turn a blind eye to blatant ped use do ya?

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by BLASTER1
      Everyone knows that it was a straight out excuse for Fury failing his test.
      Cmon now you dont think their seriously gonna turn a blind eye to blatant ped use do ya?
      Fury’s mgmt did a good job assuring to make headlines for “Fury vacates titles” and then the following day his boxing license is revoked. He then “retires” and boxing fans eat up a “medical condition” amped with “depression.”

      I don’t know what’s worse, Pac saying he had the wrong socks or “mashoulda!” But depression? Get your soft ogre ass out the sport. You don’t see Whyte making excuses for depression. Lol

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
        Fury’s mgmt did a good job assuring to make headlines for “Fury vacates titles” and then the following day his boxing license is revoked. He then “retires” and boxing fans eat up a “medical condition” amped with “depression.”

        I don’t know what’s worse, Pac saying he had the wrong socks or “mashoulda!” But depression? Get your soft ogre ass out the sport. You don’t see Whyte making excuses for depression. Lol


        He sold it and people bought it
        Simple , non toxic and self efficient

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        • BLASTER1
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          Anything to fool the public and check it out it worked. Im cynical though mayne surely this is leading to your god some how??

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #6
            Originally posted by BLASTER1
            Anything to fool the public and check it out it worked. Im cynical though mayne surely this is leading to your god some how??
            The sports world was in ups and down for Clenbuterol revision in the books and it was finally revised. Nandrolone hasn’t. One is an anabolic steroid...

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              Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
              The sports world was in ups and down for Clenbuterol revision in the books and it was finally revised. Nandrolone hasn’t. One is an anabolic steroid...
              Are you saying that by using Clen Nelo is less of a cheat than Fury?
              Cause in my eyes one ped is just as bad as the next.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #8
                Originally posted by BLASTER1
                Are you saying that by using Clen Nelo is less of a cheat than Fury?
                Cause in my eyes one ped is just as bad as the next.
                Let’s take the pragmatic approach.

                If Canelo beat his next opponent, passed the latest pre-fight test during fight week, BUT failed the POST fight test, would you assume that Canelo was “JUICED” in that ring performance? This scenario would be the Hammer fight, respectfully... though we have no idea how UKAD handled the whole Hammer pre fight testing. What we do know is that Fury failed a post fight test. It means what he submitted in the locker room after the fight. Remember, that’s for an anabolic steroid.

                Now, whereas with Canelo... because remember VADA exonerated Francisco Vargas whose circumstances in theory were worse for benefit of doubt compared to Canelo, was allowed to fight! Lol. Canelo failed a pre fight testing 78 days AWAY from a fight for a banned substance that has been revised.

                Given all these circumstances along with Vargas. Isn’t it obvious the WBC, whom had an ongoing BEEF (no pun intended!) with Canelo, would exploit a regulation that had ups and downs with WADA for refusing the WBC? The politics are simple! Plus Canelo has always passed testing for any fight, pre and post.

                So how do you measure “cheating” if one performed while the other athlete didn’t perform? They are completely apples to oranges scenario. Or, boar testicles ripped with the Nandro vs meat studied for Clen throughout the world.

                I’m being diplomatic with the observation...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                  There’s no publication in WADA for regulation or revision thresholds regarding NANDROLONE’S meat contamination. Why is that?

                  I mean, wild boar testicles get no love
                  Down to the probabilities, man. If Boar balls were in every supermarket in the UK and part of the regular diet of millions of people maybe they would start thinking about an exception.. It ain't to do with the efficacy of the drug in question but about the policy shift wherein they're elected to err on the side of protecting those innocent of deliberate use.

                  In the case of Nandralone a bit more can be done in terms of determining guilt, since it 's metabolytes can be analysed too (unlike Clenbuterol which doesn't produce indentifiable metabolytes), but it's still problematic cos the body produces one of the principal metabolytes (19-norandrosterone) endogenously. So there is in fact a cut off and it's different for men and women and pregnant women best I can tell at a quick scan.

                  The aim of this review is to analyse the studies on nandrolone metabolism to determine if it is possible for an athlete to test positive for nandrolone without having ingested or injected nandrolone.


                  https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau..._eng_clean.pdf

                  The following flowchart sums up the process and thresholds for determining whether 19-norandrosterone findings are classified as clean (<2.5ng/ml), atypical (ATF) or adverse (AAF) dependent on gender and pregnancy status.

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                  Last edited by Citizen Koba; 07-20-2020, 03:49 AM.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                    Down to the probabilities, man. If Boar balls were in every supermarket in the UK and part of the regular diet of millions of people I expect they would. It ain't to do with the efficacy of the drug in question but about the policy shift wherein they're elected to err on the side of protecting those innocent of deliberate use.
                    LMAO. I was just imagining pickled jars of such! Dear lord

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