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  • NexBesThang
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    #1

    Roy Jones Haters...

    why do you hate Roy. I'm curious...and this dosen't include people who like him but want him to stop fighting. Please use details i.e. no cuz hes a coward. Details on why.
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    #2
    Originally posted by NexBesThang
    why do you hate Roy. I'm curious...and this dosen't include people who like him but want him to stop fighting. Please use details i.e. no cuz hes a coward. Details on why.
    Who cares who hates him. I bet Jones doesn`t care. Why should anyone else!

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    • vB Martin
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      I don't hate Roy, but I have no respect for his so-called legacy.

      He spent most of his prime in a division notorious for a lack of talent, so he fought bums. I believe this was by design because he cared only about keeping belts, even meaningless ones.
      If you listen to his commentary during fights you can hear comments that tell you cared nothing about giving the fans what they deserved, only about taking safe fights. In fact, this was the turning point in my admiration for Roy. One night he was comentating on a fight with HBO and one of the boxers was brutally KO'd and had to be carried out on a stretcher. Roy's comment went something like this:
      "This is why Roy doesn't fight if the money ain't right. Something like this can end your career and you're left broke."
      At that point in his career Roy was already a multi-millionairre with no chance of becoming destitute because of a career-ending fight. This comment told me 2 things immediately:
      1) Roy didn't care about fighting the best, becaues there was risk involved in that approach to boxing.
      2) By referring to himself constantly in the 3rd Person, his ego far exceeded any talent he might have.
      If you have HBO on Demand, watch Rahman v Maskaev I and really listen to Roy's commentary. It will tell you everything you ever needed to know about how little he cared about giving the people who paid him (the fans) fights worth remembering.

      I think RJJ was a supremely talented fighter who wasted his talent and left a legacy of avoiding tough contests. We can never know how good Roy ws because he never the best in their primes. His wins over Toney and Hopkins were definitely before each fighter hit their stride in the sport.

      I don't hate him, but I do hate what he represents. Even though I don't care for PBF, I have to respect him because, even though he has made some bad decisions in advancing his legacy, he does wind up fighting the best at their best. Roy can never claim that.

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      • !! Anorak
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        #4
        Originally posted by vB Martin
        I don't hate Roy, but I have no respect for his so-called legacy.

        He spent most of his prime in a division notorious for a lack of talent, so he fought bums. I believe this was by design because he cared only about keeping belts, even meaningless ones.
        If you listen to his commentary during fights you can hear comments that tell you cared nothing about giving the fans what they deserved, only about taking safe fights. In fact, this was the turning point in my admiration for Roy. One night he was comentating on a fight with HBO and one of the boxers was brutally KO'd and had to be carried out on a stretcher. Roy's comment went something like this:
        "This is why Roy doesn't fight if the money ain't right. Something like this can end your career and you're left broke."
        At that point in his career Roy was already a multi-millionairre with no chance of becoming destitute because of a career-ending fight. This comment told me 2 things immediately:
        1) Roy didn't care about fighting the best, becaues there was risk involved in that approach to boxing.
        2) By referring to himself constantly in the 3rd Person, his ego far exceeded any talent he might have.
        If you have HBO on Demand, watch Rahman v Maskaev I and really listen to Roy's commentary. It will tell you everything you ever needed to know about how little he cared about giving the people who paid him (the fans) fights worth remembering.

        I think RJJ was a supremely talented fighter who wasted his talent and left a legacy of avoiding tough contests. We can never know how good Roy ws because he never the best in their primes. His wins over Toney and Hopkins were definitely before each fighter hit their stride in the sport.

        I don't hate him, but I do hate what he represents. Even though I don't care for PBF, I have to respect him because, even though he has made some bad decisions in advancing his legacy, he does wind up fighting the best at their best. Roy can never claim that.
        I was just looking up a quote from Roy on google where he is supposed to have said (possibly off the record) that Joe Calzaghe was "too young, too hungry" to fight. I don't know whether or not that's hearsay though.

        Anyway, though I couldn't find it, I did find this very interesting point that a poster made at another boxing forum (MB):

        Am I the only one that thinks Jones would have been better served by retiring than winnning against a guy like the Prince?

        By beating up a top twenty fighter 11 rounds to 1 he feeds the line of criticism htat he has battled since going to light heavy, i.e., "sure, you look great against the second tier, but what happens against the really good fighters...?"

        If he had lost to the Prince, it woulb be easier to write off the losses to Tarver and Johnson as the last gasps of a great career. After all, the old Roy would have dominated the Prince. But, this Roy dominated the Prince, and if he goes on to dominate a few more B side fighters, the critics will snicker and say see, he still beats the B guys, he could never beat the A guys (at light heavy).

        I do not believe that line of criticism at all, but I if Roy asked me, I would tell him to go out on this win and ask him to say hi in Cantastota five years from now.

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        • Kball15
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          #5
          i dont understand the question..???

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          • PATO 1
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            #6
            listen way i see it



            he cleaned his natural division out, now he has left some of them are the top guys there

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