Did Tyson Fury really drop out of school at age 10?

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #31
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    "a traveller kid who's living in a caravan is far more likely to get investigated closely than say a kid living in a wealthy Cambridge suburb"

    That is the opposite of what I am saying..... the law is not applied to traveller sites, they just leae them be...... someone living in a rich suburb will likely put them in a school, and then the school and govt fine them if the go truant.
    I was mainly going off personal experience, like I say I know parents in the new age traveller community, mainly working the festival circuit in crafts and wellbeing (kinda what I do usually over the summers) who have received scrutiny intense enough to be called harrassment for trying to home-school their kids - and to my eyes doing a good job - whereas the few settled, more middle class parents I know who have opted for home schooling have been either supported by the local authorities or been left alone almost to the point of negligence (my nephew's home schooling is a source of considerable family tension, kid needs more not less contact with other kids IMO and my sis-in-law's a dick).

    That said I just spent the last hour or so reading through the ofsted report on Irish traveller and Roma kids, and skimming some journal articles and other reports from within the communities themselves and it very much bears out your assertion that some - not all - local authorities and schools largely write off absences by kids from those communities as too difficult to follow up or simply not cost effective. It's not explicitly stated but I been on a few sites and I ain't ashamed to say that I wouldn't want to be going on one to tell the parents that they were in trouble for not educating their kids properly.




    https://publications.parliament.uk/p...iles/36008.htm




    Either way home schooling is very much legal and also on the increase in the UK quite aside the travelling community, which is kinda where I started from, and I can definitely see a rise following the current pandemic as many parents will have now had experience of it and might be less daunted.

    Mental health and avoiding exclusion are among reasons given for removing children from classrooms.


    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 07-11-2020, 02:59 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by GodLike
      Gypsies are well known in the uk to home school their kids, There was a gypsie kid who came to my school when i was about 10 ironically he was only there for a few weeks then left, he also had little a boxing glove gold chain on, i was one of the few people who became friends with him. that's pretty crazy now i look back, and probably sounds like some bs i just made up but i swear on my mothers life thas a true story. I wonder if he went on to become a boxer or even knew the fury family.
      What you said here is the entire truth, I went through the same thing in East London. Boy joined us and left like 4 months later. It just wasn’t their way of life. He could kick as* though. Was boxing at a young age, the boy was a cheeky little ****a too. Honestly I think the practice still goes on with travellers in the U.K. as a lot of them prefers to be independent.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Songbird
        hardly any travellers finish school, pressure to get out there and bring in some cash, robbin or legit many dont care

        i can imagine trying to teach a class full of teen travellers, oh the joy of it, the drama would be off the charts
        Luke is too goofy to rob anyone. He probably dropped out to work in Peter's yayo factory.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba
          There's a variety of rules and laws which allow for home education in the UK (given serious thought to it myself FWIW) or for children to be removed or homeschooled if the parents believe their children's cultural or religeous needs aren't being met. Alternatively many parents of travellers exclude their children on the grounds that schools aren't adequately protecting them from bullying or are exposing 'em to prejudice... I believe the real reason may more often be a cultural thing however. It's fairly normal in traveller communities to get their children into working fairly young, usually helping out the father with however he makes his living and schooling is seen as a largely pointless diversion.

          Govt report on schooling in travellers.

          https://publications.parliament.uk/p...iles/36008.htm



          Homeschooling:



          Educating your child at home ('home schooling'): when to get permission, telling the school, curriculum, SEN.


          https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...home-schooling
          Thanks. I'll look into it.

          Schools may not be perfect but the environment does help kids grow around their peers & help them build social character. That's why I can't argue against kids going to school.

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            #35
            Originally posted by W1LL
            Another irrational thread devoted to hating on the greatest rags-to-riches/success/comeback story in the history of the sport! Tyson Fury haters really are like a gang of Karens on here, no logic, just pure envy and self hatred.
            Luke didn't necessarily come from 'rags'. His dad wasn't poor & he grew up in a decent house - not a council estate. The yayo factory in Stockport has been making the Furys shytload of money for over 30 years.

            There are loads of rags-to-riches stories in the UK & Luke Fury is definitely not one of them.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              It is compulsory nowadays for your children to go to school, parents can even be fined for frequent truency.

              However, Fury grew up 30 to 20 years ago before those laws came in, and travellers never went to school at all back then and many still don't.... it's just not prosecuted as its not in the public interest to enforce it on people who live outside the system.

              Fury might not be well-spoken or intellectual to highly-educated people, but he is certainly wise to the world and how it works, and seems to be pretty switched on to things, which can go a long way. Life experience and hard work can take you far.
              That's Daniel Kinahan's brain - not Luke Fury's. He has been his advisor for more than 5 years now. Prior to that, it was Peter's brain.

              Luke is an absolute helmet when it comes to decision making and thinking. Decent boxer tho.

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                #37
                Originally posted by denium
                He dropped out in high school like most gypsies. It's all in his book.
                High school in the UK? You must be American.

                It's secondary school.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mao
                  High school in the UK? You must be American.

                  It's secondary school.
                  Who's alt are you?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Who's alt are you?
                    Whose*

                    Don't be a turd.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mao
                      Whose*

                      Don't be a turd.
                      ****Em lol. Your other account got permabanned?

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