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It's like people running a sub 5 minute mile... then a sub 4 minute mile... People stop once they've accomplished their goal. It keeps getting pushed and pushed.
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The sport evolves over time. That person doing the minimal vault would be just as good on the right if they grew up in the same time period. It's just that simple to understand.
It's like people running a sub 5 minute mile... then a sub 4 minute mile... People stop once they've accomplished their goal. It keeps getting pushed and pushed. -
No chance its laughable, its the when some people say Marciano would be champion today but it's not true yes he was relentless and could take a beaten but boxing and boxers have evolved.Comment
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Basically the whole vid was a HW fighting a MW.Comment
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I'm not going to get into an endless argument with fools about this but let me educate you once here:
Boxing is an exception to that "rule".
We have made many advancements in sports nutrition and science, and athletes can certainly perform at a higher level, however that is because of our better understanding of the human body.
As far as boxing methodology, training, instruction, and skill level go, we have been moving in the opposite direction. There is way less knowledge in the world today and way less fighters, which lends to a much smaller talent pool and pros who turn pro with much less experience and intellect (ring wise).
So no. Fighters aren't better today, if anything the average champ is far worse. Athletes on average can perform at a higher level, which is entirely different. You can be a great athlete and a crap boxer (wilder is a great example).
A guy like Fury dominates any era because he is the complete package but outside of Fury, Lomachenko, Golovkin, Gonzales, and maybe Inoue, most fighters today are club fighters in the golden era of boxing when you could walk into any gym and find a Carl Froch or Ike Quartey type of fighter, a dime a dozen.
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True, but if it wasn't for these men boxing wouldn't be where it is today.Comment
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Why not? If he came out of a time machine to now, maybe he could win, still would have a shot.
But if he had the same technology as the fighters now, he would be ok.
The fighters from his era could go as many rounds as the fighters could handle, no KO and the fight was a draw.
He signed for a 45 round fight in Cuba (100 degrees) and lasted 26 rounds way past his prime.
Let me guess you think Wilder KO's him in one round, even though Johnson is way more skilled as a fighter, despite the fact that Wilder has over 100 years of film and technology advances advantage.
Johnson would be fine, he was one of the best of his time for a reason.Last edited by ironmike2012; 07-07-2020, 03:53 PM.Comment
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Snowballs chance in hell, 45 round fights were 2 punch a round do nothings , a modern fighter would destroy those guy in a round our two.
You cant take somebody from from pre 1940s and say they will improve to 2020 standards with the training, they may be nothing but better than the terrible comp they were against, raise that level of comp 10 fold and they are an unknown.
Johnson struggled with guys the size of Manny lol, and knocked over a few big guys that were farmboy useless.
If you look at the styles of fighters from those eras the Johnson style of the time was so full of holes it couldnt compete with modern fighters.
Johnson was more a figure because of his color and the time than boxing ability, we are lucky we are in the future and can look back and compare every detail of their ability.
You can only say today that you could make them better conditioned, one cant say we will change his entire style to a modern style and they will be the same champion today, thats unrealistic to think thats how it would go, nobody is adding that the level of comp goes up by massive amounts, what says they could deal with that much higher level of competition.Comment
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