Floyd chose the toughest matchup at 147 ... great job

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  • Briman15
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    Floyd chose the toughest matchup at 147 ... great job

    This matchup is not nearly as one sided as everyone seems to think. True Mayweather can run rings around baldy, but I think everyone is underestimating just how strong and relentless Baldomir is. The guy is just as tireless as Mayweather and will be able to push him around to set up punches. Floyd is going to have to move brilliantly and work very well or Baldomir will be able to use his strength to great advantage. While Baldomir does not have margarito's one punch power, his physical strength, his compact interior punches and his cool relentlessness present a much bigger challenge.

    Also consider the historical parrellel. Carlos Monzon, an Argentine fighter with several losses back home on his record but with a six year unbeaten streak entered the ring in 1970 against the legendary Nino Benvenutti. Without nearly the impressive victories Baldomir has on his resume, Monzon knocked out Nino and dominated the middleweight division for the next decade. He is the standard against which all Argentine fighters including Baldomir are measured.

    Floyd is definitely the favorite, but this could be more interesting than most people imagine.
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    Originally posted by Briman15
    This matchup is not nearly as one sided as everyone seems to think. True Mayweather can run rings around baldy, but I think everyone is underestimating just how strong and relentless Baldomir is. The guy is just as tireless as Mayweather and will be able to push him around to set up punches. Floyd is going to have to move brilliantly and work very well or Baldomir will be able to use his strength to great advantage. While Baldomir does not have margarito's one punch power, his physical strength, his compact interior punches and his cool relentlessness present a much bigger challenge.

    Also consider the historical parrellel. Carlos Monzon, an Argentine fighter with several losses back home on his record but with a six year unbeaten streak entered the ring in 1970 against the legendary Nino Benvenutti. Without nearly the impressive victories Baldomir has on his resume, Monzon knocked out Nino and dominated the middleweight division for the next decade. He is the standard against which all Argentine fighters including Baldomir are measured.

    Floyd is definitely the favorite, but this could be more interesting than most people imagine.


    Haha man shut dat **** up, Baldi aint Monzon and PBF aint Benvenutti, Baldi has had a good run and beat two descent fighters but, the two of them dont amount to 1 Mayweather and the fact is Baldi will be overly matched by a fast smart defensive fighter who has mastered the art of boxing.....So all that mythical metaphor **** doesnt weigh on a fight inculding the Best V a Common Opponent, at least in the eys of the Best!

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    • Briman15
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      Monzon wasn't monzon till he beat nino. And to suggest that nino was not a legend is nuts, he beat emile griffith two of three times. Great technical boxer. Won the Val barker trophy in the 1960 olympics.

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        #4
        I don't have problem with this fight happening at all. It's a logical choice for PBF. He's the number 1 p4p fighter and yet he's only rated #2 behind Baldomir at 147. It's better that PBF settles this issue first before he decides to do something else in his career.

        This is not the toughest fight for PBF but I believe Baldomir can give PBF some good competition. It's just a matter of how Baldomir is gonna play his cards.

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        • DLT
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          Originally posted by Briman15
          This matchup is not nearly as one sided as everyone seems to think. True Mayweather can run rings around baldy, but I think everyone is underestimating just how strong and relentless Baldomir is. The guy is just as tireless as Mayweather and will be able to push him around to set up punches. Floyd is going to have to move brilliantly and work very well or Baldomir will be able to use his strength to great advantage. While Baldomir does not have margarito's one punch power, his physical strength, his compact interior punches and his cool relentlessness present a much bigger challenge.

          Also consider the historical parrellel. Carlos Monzon, an Argentine fighter with several losses back home on his record but with a six year unbeaten streak entered the ring in 1970 against the legendary Nino Benvenutti. Without nearly the impressive victories Baldomir has on his resume, Monzon knocked out Nino and dominated the middleweight division for the next decade. He is the standard against which all Argentine fighters including Baldomir are measured.

          Floyd is definitely the favorite, but this could be more interesting than most people imagine.
          I cant see it happening. If this was the Floyd before the N'Dou fight then everything you say could be true but Floyd is a much more offensive fighter now. Therefore unlike other elite slick boxers, Floyd is actually a monster on the inside.

          If Baldy does manage to get close then I still think Floyd kills him even on the inside. If they go toe to toe then Floyd will still slice him up. Baldy is too slow for him. Floyd will block all his shots & counter him to death if they go toe to toe which will happened more in this fight then alot of people think

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            Floyd will block all his shots & counter him to death if they go toe to toe which will happened more in this fight then alot of people think
            It's gonna be foolish to say that PBF is the same PBF as before. The guy has gained more experience and of course confidence going to this fight. But be real dude, even if Baldomir is slower than him, there's no way that PBF can block all his shots. I can assure you that one or two of Baldomir's punches will hit the target and that is the most dangerous part. While Baldomir doesn't have a high K.O. percentage the guy is a legititmate welter and we never know how his punches will affect PBF.

            Baldo has shown heart and the ability to rise up to the occasion and with a very capable and inteligent corner on his side I won't be suprised if Baldo puts PBF on a very compromisisng situation. There's no way Baldo can outbox PBF so expect him to take the best chance he has, and that's to go all out and slug it out.

            Having said that, I'm all HYPE UP to see this fight.

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              Originally posted by Briman15
              This matchup is not nearly as one sided as everyone seems to think. True Mayweather can run rings around baldy, but I think everyone is underestimating just how strong and relentless Baldomir is. The guy is just as tireless as Mayweather and will be able to push him around to set up punches. Floyd is going to have to move brilliantly and work very well or Baldomir will be able to use his strength to great advantage. While Baldomir does not have margarito's one punch power, his physical strength, his compact interior punches and his cool relentlessness present a much bigger challenge.

              Also consider the historical parrellel. Carlos Monzon, an Argentine fighter with several losses back home on his record but with a six year unbeaten streak entered the ring in 1970 against the legendary Nino Benvenutti. Without nearly the impressive victories Baldomir has on his resume, Monzon knocked out Nino and dominated the middleweight division for the next decade. He is the standard against which all Argentine fighters including Baldomir are measured.

              Floyd is definitely the favorite, but this could be more interesting than most people imagine.
              he chose the "champ"..calling Baldi the 'toughest fight ..you have to be on floyd nuts to even say that ...biotch

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                Originally posted by psychopath
                It's gonna be foolish to say that PBF is the same PBF as before. The guy has gained more experience and of course confidence going to this fight. But be real dude, even if Baldomir is slower than him, there's no way that PBF can block all his shots. I can assure you that one or two of Baldomir's punches will hit the target and that is the most dangerous part. While Baldomir doesn't have a high K.O. percentage the guy is a legititmate welter and we never know how his punches will affect PBF.

                Baldo has shown heart and the ability to rise up to the occasion and with a very capable and inteligent corner on his side I won't be suprised if Baldo puts PBF on a very compromisisng situation. There's no way Baldo can outbox PBF so expect him to take the best chance he has, and that's to go all out and slug it out.

                Having said that, I'm all HYPE UP to see this fight.
                I am serious when I talk about blocking punches. When was the last time you seen a righty land any kind of clean shot on Floyd? His speed & D is that superb now. The only shots that land is when he is letting him with that defense he has. Thats why I dont see any righty being able to beat him unless its a 154 and there too big for him.

                We will see how many clean punches he lands. Gatti is a good fighter and do you remember him landing any clean puches? N'Dou? Bruseles? The other guys landed a few but thats because there lefties. Baldy will fall in line with the rest and I bet it will be hard for you to remember a clean punch that he lands unless its just a basic jab or a body shot, which Floyd still blocks most of them also

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                  Originally posted by DLT
                  I am serious when I talk about blocking punches. When was the last time you seen a righty land any kind of clean shot on Floyd? His speed & D is that superb now. The only shots that land is when he is letting him with that defense he has. Thats why I dont see any righty being able to beat him unless its a 154 and there too big for him.

                  We will see how many clean punches he lands. Gatti is a good fighter and do you remember him landing any clean puches? N'Dou? Bruseles? The other guys landed a few but thats because there lefties. Baldy will fall in line with the rest and I bet it will be hard for you to remember a clean punch that he lands unless its just a basic jab or a body shot, which Floyd still blocks most of them also
                  Gatti n'dou and brussles................LMAO!!!!!!

                  DID YOU REALY JUST SAY THAT!!??


                  get off Floyds nuts..PLEASE!!

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                  • BadMagick
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                    I really don't think Baldomir is going to beat Floyd. Floyd is nothing like Judah when it comes to preparing for a fight, he does not **** around. Judah ****ed around and lost a hairsplitting decision to him. Floyd is twice the boxer and fighter that Judah is, and he also has a better chin.

                    Look for a Mayweather - Gatti repeat, except Baldomir doesn't get as busted up. UNLESS Baldomir comes out swinging. He has to know that he doesn't have a chance in the world of outboxing Floyd, so he just might do that.

                    I'll agree that he represents more of a challenge than a lot of people are giving him credit for, though. IF (and this is a big if, because Gatti is a C boxer imo, and Judah is a punk ***** who doesn't prepare properly, and is not mentally mature at all) he applies pressure properly, and uses his strength to his advantage, which I can't completely say he won't do, then he has a real shot. The thing is, Floyd has been in there with guys who do that, and they do it better than him (JLC, for example), and he knows how to deal with that.

                    I honestly believe that Floyd is such a skilled ring technician that he will be prepared for just about anything that Baldomir throws at him stylistically. There is a possibility, however slight, that Baldomir could come up with one of boxing's greatest upsets ever (the odds have got to be really high against him), but the likliness of the matter is that Floyd beats him, and beats him convincingly at that.

                    Originally posted by DLT
                    I am serious when I talk about blocking punches. When was the last time you seen a righty land any kind of clean shot on Floyd? His speed & D is that superb now. The only shots that land is when he is letting him with that defense he has. Thats why I dont see any righty being able to beat him unless its a 154 and there too big for him.

                    We will see how many clean punches he lands. Gatti is a good fighter and do you remember him landing any clean puches? N'Dou? Bruseles? The other guys landed a few but thats because there lefties. Baldy will fall in line with the rest and I bet it will be hard for you to remember a clean punch that he lands unless its just a basic jab or a body shot, which Floyd still blocks most of them also

                    You have go to be out of your ****ing mind. Gatti is NOT a good fighter, never has been, never will be. He had a ton of heart but was nothing more than a glorified clubfighter. Using those three names just shows how worthless your opinion is. Floyd has looked far beyond all boxers since N'Dou because he hasn't ****ing fought anyone. This is a step up in competition over the last couple years for Floyd. It's also an enormous step up for Baldomir.
                    Last edited by BadMagick; 08-12-2006, 12:19 AM.

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