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  • icha
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    #41
    Originally posted by Smash
    ggg was 35 and just squeaked past jacobs so i doubt many had him p4p no1 at that time
    espn and ring both had him #1


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    he was p4p king until canelo beat him... he old and shot doe....

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    • ironmike2012
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      #42
      Maybe, he does have some good wins, but I think GGG beat him twice and the Kovalev fight looked like a fixed fight.

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      • Oregonian
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        #43
        Originally posted by HewJohnson
        Those are old bouts but if you want to throw those in, yeah, let’s throw in Cotto Margarito Hatton De La Hoya Barrera Morales Marquez and Bradley while we’re at it.

        Currently tho?
        Thurman is the best defeated WW and PAC did that.

        Spence best win is Porter, who Thurman beat.
        And Crawford best win?
        Lmao.
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        Those are not “old” bouts. That’s PAC’s patter but since you me ruined some names, how about we analyze them with facts?

        Cotto was at catchweight of 145.
        Oscar was at 147 - a weight Oscar last fought in 2002.
        Margarito was at catchweight of 150 for a 154 title. Also, Margarito had been KO’d by Mosley.
        Hatton has been KO’d by Floyd

        Morales beat PAC once and Marquez beat him 3 times and KO’d him in the last fight.

        PAC also fought Clottey who had lost to Cotto

        Bradley moves up to 147 and won the first fight.

        There is always an asterisk in all of the fights PAC had after 2008. They were either catchweights or fighting journeymen.
        When he stepped up to fight legit guys, he got beat.

        Thurman was a good win. I will not discredit that.

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        • Gamer30168
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          #44
          I have to agree. Crawford's resume is too weak and come to think of it so is Fury's. I may not necessarily be a Canelo fan but I don't see anyone else in boxing with a better resume

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            #45
            What weight class has Canelo dominated to be No1 ??? I thought that was what you had to do...GGG, Jacobs ok, what about the other champions at that weight class?, jumped up to 175 beat crusher then ran away....

            P4p is still vacant in my opinion

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            • Smash
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              #46
              canelo beat ggg in 2018 and if u had ggg top p4p u must be crazy

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              • Senor_frogs
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                #47
                Originally posted by Smash
                canelo beat ggg in 2018 and if u had ggg top p4p u must be crazy
                Almost Every boxing experts list had GGG P4P 1. There’s multiple articles to back that claim that you can look up yourself. One was just presented to you. One by a very reputable source. And you still Deny and claim he was old? That’s some Fanboy shtt right there. Now, had you said GGG was not P4P 1 because all he had been beating was cans aside from Jacobs. So it only gave the illusion that he was more dominant than he really was (Which is what I think was the case). That would be a more credible argument than just denying the facts that are being presented to you. And that’s not saying that GGG isn’t a really good fighter. Because he obviously is. It’s just stating that his competition what’s weak.
                Last edited by Senor_frogs; 06-30-2020, 01:14 PM.

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                • Smash
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Senor_frogs
                  Almost Every boxing experts list had GGG P4P 1. There’s multiple articles to back that claim that you can look up yourself. One was just presented to you. One by a very reputable source. And you still Deny and claim he was old? That’s some Fanboy shtt right there. Now, had you said GGG was not P4P 1 because all he had been beating was cans aside from Jacobs. So it only gave the illusion that he was more dominant than he really was (Which is what I think was the case). That would be a more credible argument than just denying the facts that are being presented to you. And that’s not saying that GGG isn’t a really good fighter. Because he obviously is. It’s just stating that his competition what’s weak.
                  2018

                  An impressive victory over Gennady Golovkin to win the middleweight championship propelled Canelo Alvarez into the ESPN pound-for-pound rankings. Where does GGG rank?


                  but i see what u are saying, other places i looked had him lower at times too
                  Last edited by Smash; 06-30-2020, 01:30 PM.

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                  • Senor_frogs
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Smash
                    2018

                    An impressive victory over Gennady Golovkin to win the middleweight championship propelled Canelo Alvarez into the ESPN pound-for-pound rankings. Where does GGG rank?


                    but i see what u are saying, other places i looked had him lower at times too
                    Off course not everyone was going to have him 1. Some had him at #2. But the general consensus was that he was #1

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                    • JLC
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by mxtali
                      Mostly i was trying to say that if you’re the boogeyman of your division you should finish people 2 weight classes under you. Especially if they’re not movers
                      I feel you. Spence going the distance w him and having a tough fight w Porter def removed the “boogeyman” status he held. Danny is pushing to fight him. Porter is pushing for a rematch. Ugas wants him. He has opponents that are ready and willing to fight and that was before his accident.

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