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  • tokon
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    #111
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    How did you come to the conclusion A.J will fight in May next year against Usyk and will rest with around the same time frame that Fury has to fit in Whyte after Wilder which has to happen this year ? What .
    Maybe I didn't express myself well, or I've misunderstood what hearn meant, if so apologies?
    Read what hearn said, see what you think.
    To me, it seems hearn expects fury to fight both wilder and Whyte before Joshua is ready to go again (after Pulev in November)in may?

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    • Angeljuice
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      #112
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Wilder ain't do anything. WBC Guy is the culprit if that's your angle. Thing is WBC Guy gave Whyte elimination opportunities to get a Wilder fight, as they often do so it's not like something weird is happening to Whyte that's not happening to others, & he's turned them down. Or at least til the last one which he took & won & now he's got a fight for the WBC belt penciled in. He coulda had it way sooner if he'd been for real sooner.

      Fook man try to hype Whyte for his pandemic PR work & mfers go on weird ass tangents about other random ass conspiracy bs.

      Again respect to Whyte who's using his time wisely, but lol at his whiny fanboys.
      I'm not a Whyte fan, I just call out BS when I hear it. Wilder chose who to fight and who to avoid, not the WBC.

      He was their big name star and called all the shots.

      The Chisora fight was the first WBC eliminator Whyte fought, way, way back.
      Last edited by Angeljuice; 06-29-2020, 10:49 AM.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #113
        Originally posted by Cobra Curry
        Not sure what you mean.
        The simple shlt seems to melt minds....

        PRIOR to his fights with Wilder, Ortiz has been a mess, yes ?

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          #114
          Originally posted by BodyBagz
          The simple shlt seems to melt minds....

          PRIOR to his fights with Wilder, Ortiz has been a mess, yes ?
          Prior to Wilder, I saw Ortiz v Malik Scott and David Allen.

          Against Scott, I had concerns about his inability to cut off the ring but I gave him the benefit of the doubt because of Scott's negative approach.

          Against Allen, I saw a technically sound fighter as you'd expect from the Cuban School and of course he got the job done but without really going through the gears, appearing a little one paced as you might expect from a fighter of his age.

          He did go on to show an extra gear against Wilder in their first fight but that came at a great cost to himself.

          From a technical perspective, I view Ortiz as better than Whyte and may even drop him in the early going. However, I would expect Whyte to set too quick a tempo for him and eventually prevail.

          It's a young man's game as they say.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Cobra Curry
            Prior to Wilder, I saw Ortiz v Malik Scott and David Allen.

            Against Scott, I had concerns about his inability to cut off the ring but I gave him the benefit of the doubt because of Scott's negative approach.

            Against Allen, I saw a technically sound fighter as you'd expect from the Cuban School and of course he got the job done but without really going through the gears, appearing a little one paced as you might expect from a fighter of his age.

            He did go on to show an extra gear against Wilder in their first fight but that came at a great cost to himself.

            From a technical perspective, I view Ortiz as better than Whyte and may even drop him in the early going. However, I would expect Whyte to set too quick a tempo for him and eventually prevail.

            It's a young man's game as they say.
            IOW, had a couple of tougher than expected fights

            Name a HOF who didn't have these types of fights.

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              #116
              Originally posted by BodyBagz
              IOW, had a couple of tougher than expected fights

              Name a HOF who didn't have these types of fights.
              You're acting like I'm saying Ortiz is garbage; I'm not.

              I'm saying he's a good technician with slow but educated feet and a dodgy cardiac system. Am I wrong?

              I also said I gave him the benefit of the doubt for Malik Scott.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                You're acting like I'm saying Ortiz is garbage; I'm not.

                I'm saying he's a good technician with slow but educated feet and a dodgy cardiac system. Am I wrong?

                I also said I gave him the benefit of the doubt for Malik Scott.
                In the end, only thing that matters are Ws/Ls. Tough fights/bad nights should be expected.

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                • REDEEMER
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by tokon
                  Maybe I didn't express myself well, or I've misunderstood what hearn meant, if so apologies?
                  Read what hearn said, see what you think.
                  To me, it seems hearn expects fury to fight both wilder and Whyte before Joshua is ready to go again (after Pulev in November)in may?
                  This isn’t possible with Usyk going to be up . If Fury isn’t fighting Whyte it’s A.J . Both guys have two fights to get out of the way unless both concede to give up titles which won’t happen . Hearn is stating Fury vs Whyte is plausible in May because that’s going to be A.Js fight against Usyk that time so he wants Fury to get get his own roadblocks out of the way . Putting A.J on the shelf wouldn’t be an advantage,the more active fighter will be in a better position to win With the current cancellations that took place there’s going to be a lot of ring rust so that’s another point people aren’t taking into account with other fights coming up which could change an outcome .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 06-30-2020, 06:36 AM.

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                  • tokon
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    This isn’t possible with Usyk going to be up . If Fury isn’t fighting Whyte it’s A.J . Both guys have two fights to get out of the way unless both concede to give up titles which won’t happen . Hearn is stating Fury vs Whyte is plausible in May because that’s going to be A.Js fight against Usyk that time so he wants Fury to get get his own roadblocks out of the way .
                    Well, if that's Hearn meant, and tbh I'm not convinced it is, it's a reasonable proposition. Both guys get all contracted or mandatory fights out of the way i.e. both have two fights Then, if both come through, they fight.

                    The thing is, with Joshua's twice per year schedule, that would mean the first Fury-Joshua wouldn't be until at least October/November 2021. And that's not the way hearn is talking . . .

                    Thanks for your perspective though.

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                    • Densuo
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                      #120
                      Trying so hard to stay relevant lol

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