Who is taking steroids still in boxing?

[amagnin]

The topic came up on another thread regarding James Toney. We know that Toney tested positive for steroids after his fight with Ruiz and we know Vargas tested positive after his fight with DLH. Mosley and RJJ have been accused by people of having taken steroids and then falling off after going off of them. Who do people think are still using steroids today in the sport (designer obviously since they test for anabolic steroids and the like)? I don't think that he is, but Jeff Lacy looks like he is on roids.

[DiegoFuego]

well, if they've been taking them for long enough we'll know sooner or later when their careers are ended with injuries like Vitali Klitschko's. Vitali was either faking to avoid Rahman or has been on the juice for a long, long time to have that many different injuries in less than a year

[amagnin]

well, if they've been taking them for long enough we'll know sooner or later when their careers are ended with injuries like Vitali Klitschko's. Vitali was either faking to avoid Rahman or has been on the juice for a long, long time to have that many different injuries in less than a year

So do you think Forrest took steroids because he had so many arm injuries in a short time period? And I never thought of V. Klitschko as a juicer, but your point definitely makes sense. I think Shane might be back on the juice after his last 2 performances. The guy had a 6 fight span where he looked totally dead and now he looks very much alive. Add in the controversy over he and Balco and it makes even more sense.

[AllEyesOpen]

I can't say, that's the thing, maybe Wlad, it might run in the family, I heard Vitali did, maybe Mosley, but who knows cause Mosley's always looked muscular, but what i think is that just because they stopped Balco labs doesn't mean that those kind of steroids that's hard if not impossible to detect isn't still out there, & an athlete who wants the edge over the competition I doubt would find it hard to get his hands on it if he really wanted it. I just copied my post from the Toney thread, so lets keep the steroid topic on this thread

[mECHsLAVE]

Mosely was on the Balco client list. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. Check, check. Just look at their bodies and how they moved up weight classes with muscle mass additions and then began to unravel.

Vitali tested positive for them, but it was leading up to the 96 Olympics, never as a professional.

Toney of course used steroids, knowingly, as did Vargas. They got caught and did the old "Oh, well the doctor/nutritionist gave them to me and I didn't know what they were." The most illogical and idiotic excuse imaginable. Just tell me someone must've injected you while you slept, why don't you?

Everyone else is just speculation that you mentioned. Lacy? Possible, but I don't think so. He's been a boxer and in the gym since he was 8, and he seems to carry that muscle very naturally. Now, if he started as a welter and was now a super-middle with that type of cut, muscular physique, then you might have a point. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[K-DOGG]

...I don't know about "roids"; but whoever thought Rahman-Maskaev II was worth PPV is on some kind of drug....I'm voting for Crack.

[DiegoFuego]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mosley still does them. Vitali did before the pro's, so he's already suspect and I can't figure out if he was just afraid of Rahman or truthfully breaking down (which is the result of steroids). I don't think Forrest was on them because his injury was the same one mostly. He could have done them though. I don't think anybody who was caught in the pro's still does them (Vargas, Toney, etc.)

[amagnin]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mosley still does them. Vitali did before the pro's, so he's already suspect and I can't figure out if he was just afraid of Rahman or truthfully breaking down (which is the result of steroids). I don't think Forrest was on them because his injury was the same one mostly. He could have done them though. I don't think anybody who was caught in the pro's still does them (Vargas, Toney, etc.)

I agree with you about Toney and Vargas. Toney took them to help his rehab from surgery on his arm which is different than building muscle mass. And you could tell at the weigh-in for Vargas-DLH that something was weird. I have never seen Vargas look that cut, and it ended up working against him. Late in the fight Emmanual Steward pointed out that Vargas' arms were so heavy he couldn't even keep his hands up.

[Left2body]

Mosely was on the Balco client list. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. Check, check. Just look at their bodies and how they moved up weight classes with muscle mass additions and then began to unravel.

Vitali tested positive for them, but it was leading up to the 96 Olympics, never as a professional.

Toney of course used steroids, knowingly, as did Vargas. They got caught and did the old "Oh, well the doctor/nutritionist gave them to me and I didn't know what they were." The most illogical and idiotic excuse imaginable. Just tell me someone must've injected you while you slept, why don't you?

Everyone else is just speculation that you mentioned. Lacy? Possible, but I don't think so. He's been a boxer and in the gym since he was 8, and he seems to carry that muscle very naturally. Now, if he started as a welter and was now a super-middle with that type of cut, muscular physique, then you might have a point. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Agree with you about Lacy, he is Tyson esq in that the both had that natural Linebacker build at relatively young age. I saw a picture of a young tyson 13-14yrs old in a picture with LL and both were obvious kids by there faces but Tyson looks like a BEAST of a boy, I was seriously like holy ****.

Now James Toney used it but I dont think he used it before he went to HW because it would've only added to his legendary making weight issues. Also James Toney never looked big until that fight in which his arms looked really thick and I was thinking if all that weight lifting probably hurt his reflexes (before I knew it was steroids). Also James Toney never out physcialed anyone at crusier or heavy, he just out boxed them with his skill.

[Abe Attell]

steroids are bad for the sport