Comments Thread For: Fury Believes He Will Really Damage Hearn, Matchroom By Beating Joshua

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  • _Rexy_
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    #41
    Originally posted by Oshio
    What if Joshua beats you Fury what will happen to Frank Warren and Top Rank? It is easy to talk about what will befall others without looking at yourself. What if Wilder KO you brutally within 2 rounds? What if you lose both fights with Joshua? Fury sounds like he has fought all the top 10 guys in the division whereas he has only fought one and a half, Klitschko and the Alabama fraud
    Top Rank has the top guys in many divisions (Fury, Beterbiev, Crawford, Ramirez, Lomacheno, Berchelt, Warrington, Navarette, Inoue)

    So even if Fury loses, they still have the top guy in eight other divisions.

    Matchroom has....Joshua

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    • Ritz Kola
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      #42
      Originally posted by Tyistall
      Fury will talk about Hearn, Matchroom, AJ and just about everything else. But what he won't talk about is the fact that he took steroids and got caught. Which is why this fight, if it happens, will not happen in the UK where it should be happening. And I love how everybody is already acting like Fury has already beaten both Wilder AND AJ hahaha. Pride cometh before a fall. Just ask Wilder about that one..
      They can just ask AJ about that one you mean. He's the only "elite" top 3 heavy that loss to a bum ranked outside the top 15 when he had every conceivable advantage over him. Wilder loss to the other best guy in the division.

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      • Ritz Kola
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        #43
        Originally posted by 786
        I'd normally agree but the Fury-Wilder rematch caused one of the weirdest post fight dynamics I've seen in the last 20 - 30 years.

        To a lot of people, Wilder became this bum that isn't capable of beating current Tyson or Holyfield and surely can't beat anyone in the top 10, while Fury became the best heavyweight of all time to others. ****, Andy Lee has been coming out with that nonsense since the rematch but has since said that if Fury beats AJ then he becomes the GOAT when reality is, his achievements don't match those of Lennox or Evander and he's not reached the level of dominance of a Wlad.

        If AJ loses to Fury, he might go down as the worst heavyweight champion since Bruce Seldon and Fury might end up being the recognised GOAT of the heavyweight division. It's great that things at heavyweight are finally competitive and exciting but it's creating a lot of delusion for some reason.
        786, you from Dade?

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        • Ritz Kola
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          #44
          AJ was always an overrated hype job who's only good win was an old, semi-retired Vlad that he went life and death with...that Fury beat up and dethroned two years prior. And Fury did it EASILY.
          That same Fury has TWO fights with the other longest reigning heavy since Vlad, which was Wilder. Wilder was also the most dangerous and most dominant Heavy & was undefeated. Took two fights but eventually Fury stopped him. And it was easy just like the Wlad win.
          Fury undoubtedly is a much better champ than AJ and has vastly superior wins.
          AJ is the weak link. Skills aren't as good as Fury's & power isn't as good as Wilder's. He's got an overall better resume than fury but drastically inferior wins on it.
          Wilder has the best resume of the bunch. Fought the most top 10 opponents and only lost after 2 fights against the aforementioned Tyson Fury who's A giant compared to Wilder. While the hype job loss to a guy with no training camp, zero physical advantages, who also wasn't ranked within the top 20: Andy Ruiz. Must've been like a 50-1 underdog but he pummeled the hype job.
          Fury isn't wrong. All MR has is AJ. Thats it. Nobody else is known. Nobody else could dream of selling PPVs. They might sellout the "WEEMBLEH" but tickets there are $5. American $5. Ortiz will keep terrorizing every other MR heavyweight, while every other MR heavyweight will keep fighting retired old men: see Bum Dillard Whyte & Usyk's last fights.
          The problem was MR had the worst promoter of all-time running it. Good for aj, bad for everything else including deadzone which ran into the ground.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #45
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg
            Fury ain’t lying. But Fury better not look past wilder
            Fury is going to derail the hype job that is AJ and it will be marvelous.

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            • Tyistall
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              #46
              Originally posted by Ritz Kola
              They can just ask AJ about that one you mean. He's the only "elite" top 3 heavy that loss to a bum ranked outside the top 15 when he had every conceivable advantage over him. Wilder loss to the other best guy in the division.
              You just proved my point by skipping over the steroids thing.

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                #47
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                How is AJ better? because he beat a Wlad who was two years older? Fury dominated him in a masterclass and took his belts in Wlad's home.

                AJ got a ref stoppage in a close fight in HIS home from a Wlad who was inactive for two years.
                Comparing old Wlad's doesn't work in boxing. Just as Fury struggled against bums who AJ or Wilder would have KO'd in one or 2 rounds.

                I never said AJ was better. I said AJ is proven top-3. Because Aj has actually fought a lot of current top-10 boxers. Fury is just there because he beat Wilder.

                Fury and Wilder could be better or worse than AJ - but we just don't know because both seem weirdly scared of fighting top-level boxers

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                • Ritz Kola
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Tyistall
                  You just proved my point by skipping over the steroids thing.
                  Fury's steroids thing?

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                  • Tyistall
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ritz Kola
                    Fury's steroids thing?
                    Yes dumbassss. You, along with the rest of Furys fans always fail to mention that when you are praising this fraud

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                    • Ritz Kola
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tyistall
                      Yes dumbassss. You, along with the rest of Furys fans always fail to mention that when you are praising this fraud
                      You're a freaking idiot! Who's talking about that? I'm a WILDER fan.

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