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  • Citizen Koba
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    #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    appears canelo and golovkin both have an interim fight with sights set on meeting again later....

    charlo has possible good fights with chenko and eubank that can be made....

    danny jacobs working at 168 now....

    32 years old and still not a notable fight or win.....and the near future looks pretty bleak....

    what can he do?
    it is bleak and a damn shame, but what can a fighter actually do if dudes don't want to fight him or he doesn't bring enough money to the table to get serious dudes interested? Just a case of fighting and beating the best dudes they can get in the ring. Besides outside of Derevyanchenko and maybe Jermall (who doesn't seem much interested in fighting off PBC) who else is there?

    Guess he could move up, but what leverage as he got at 168? Ain't even got the strap he got at 160 so technically he's in a worse postion, and will also be starting to face guys with a size advantage. I'd guess Williams is the obvious next option, and then just keep fighting the highest ranked dudes he can I guess... problem is the same as it was through most of last decade though, US fans just don't know half of the dudes fighting at 160, ain't like 147 or 154 where they watched most of the fighters come up from prospects. Doesn't necessarily make 'em worse, but does mean they're often perceived as worse, and they certainly ain't gonna create they interest that two US fighters would.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-08-2020, 05:52 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DefGotsABush
      This virus stuff hasn't helped anyone, certainly not Andrade. He really impressed me over Sulecki, so would really like to see him keep taking those steps up...can't tell if he is something special, or if he just looks that way, and maybe doesn't have enough 'dog' in him to really be a top guy.

      But yeah I mean I really hope he gets a top fight soon
      You were impressed when he fought who?

      Gimme a break. This dudes stragety is to never fight a live body and claim nobody will fight him. Maybe one day he will finally step up and if he gets a lucky win he can claim he was the best.

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        #23
        Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
        You were impressed when he fought who?

        Gimme a break. This dudes stragety is to never fight a live body and claim nobody will fight him. Maybe one day he will finally step up and if he gets a lucky win he can claim he was the best.
        What kind of child has that picture as his avatar...what a dork.

        Yeah Andrade dominated Sulecki...who gave Danny a good fight...who gave GGG and Canelo a good fight.

        Can't break it down much more simply than that

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          #24
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba
          it is bleak and a damn shame, but what can a fighter actually do if dudes don't want to fight him or he doesn't bring enough money to the table to get serious dudes interested? Just a case of fighting and beating the best dudes they can get in the ring. Besides outside of Derevyanchenko and maybe Jermall (who doesn't seem much interested in fighting off PBC) who else is there?

          Guess he could move up, but what leverage as he got at 168? Ain't even got the strap he got at 160 so technically he's in a worse postion, and will also be starting to face guys with a size advantage. I'd guess Williams is the obvious next option, and then just keep fighting the highest ranked dudes he can I guess... problem is the same as it was through most of last decade though, US fans just don't know half of the dudes fighting at 160, ain't like 147 or 154 where they watched most of the fighters come up from prospects. Doesn't necessarily make 'em worse, but does mean they're often perceived as worse, and they certainly ain't gonna create they interest that two US fighters would.
          Wouldn't he become Saunders' mando if he moved up?

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            #25
            Originally posted by famicommander
            I bet he continues his career-long streak of never fighting anyone good.
            Bingo.

            He's a nobody and will never fight anyone. Once he starts slipping some young up and coming guy will get his scalp.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              Wouldn't he become Saunders' mando if he moved up?
              Umm... I'm pretty sure that's just for WBO super champions, I'll check once I get back on my PC, my paws ain't really ideal for scrolling through pdfs on my lil ol phone.

              That said Im sure he'd be granted a decent ranking so he'd likely not be more than a fight or two away from a shot anyway, much as Saunders himself was when he moved up.

              Still not sure it puts him in a much better position than he is already though, but it's definitely a viable option. Like a lot of things in life I guess, you never how long to keep waiting, the bus always seems to come two minutes after you decide to start walking...

              Say another year, another year and a half to work himself into a mandatory slot at 168 the way the boxing world works... hell maybe longer. The boxing world ain't usually kind to dudes who ain't with the biggest promotions. I had hoped signing with DAZN might have improved Boo Boos chances of getting some solid fights, but Hearn's top heavy model with Matchroom US means that he's seeming very reluctant to match his top fighters against one another.

              EDIT: Ok yeah, the automatic mandatory (or rather right to be considered for mandatory) for adjacent divisions is for Super Champions with the WBO:



              Sec 14 (d)

              (2) ELIGIBILITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR DESIGNATION AS THE
              MANDATORY CHALLENGER IN HIGHER OR LOWER DIVISION.
              If requested by a Super Champion, the Championship Committee may designate
              the Super Champion as the mandatory challenger for the higher or lower
              division.
              Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-09-2020, 04:05 AM.

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                #27
                IMO, a guy who wonders what Andrade’s next move is will one day turn to you and ask something insignificant like “what do you think our kindergarten teacher is doing now?”

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DefGotsABush
                  What kind of child has that picture as his avatar...what a dork.

                  Yeah Andrade dominated Sulecki...who gave Danny a good fight...who gave GGG and Canelo a good fight.

                  Can't break it down much more simply than that
                  Lol lol lol what a know nothing clown.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    appears canelo and golovkin both have an interim fight with sights set on meeting again later....

                    charlo has possible good fights with chenko and eubank that can be made....

                    danny jacobs working at 168 now....

                    32 years old and still not a notable fight or win.....and the near future looks pretty bleak....

                    what can he do?
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    It’s sad man, his best win is still Vanes like 7 years on.

                    Munguia is probably his best option...

                    I think he’ll probably fight Liam Williams next.
                    GGG was in the same boat and simply became ACTIVE. Fight 3x a year even if they're average competition. Fighting helps your case and inactivity hurts it

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED
                      GGG was in the same boat and simply became ACTIVE. Fight 3x a year even if they're average competition. Fighting helps your case and inactivity hurts it
                      i hear you...and youre right.....but not all situations are exactly indentical...

                      hbo pushed golovkin hard...they wanted another star and a potential mega fight matchup with canelo at some point....they were angling for that stuff from the start with golovkin once they decided to push him hard....

                      if canelo were over fighting on showtime and locked into a deal with them things might have turned out different for golovkin

                      thats why i see charlo as a longshot to fight andrade anytime soon...he may be able to fight chenko and or eubank....

                      golovkin will chase one more canelo fight and likely retire...even if golovkin doesnt retire after 3rd canelo fight hes unlikely to fight andrade

                      he can remain "active" and hope to get canelos attention....thats probably his best bet...but its no guarantee...it could take another 2 years for canelo to even look his way or consider him.....

                      simply being "active" probably isnt going to cut it unless he can get a decent scalp first....even hbo and canelo had golovkin fight jacobs first.....and canelo wasnt quite as big in status as he is now....canelo is going to want to see andrade do something to earn it.....simply beating 3 luke keeler level guys alone isnt going to change his mind

                      golovkins situation was similar yet different in some ways....DAZN isnt all that jazzed about canelo/andrade...andrade hasnt done anything to warrant it...hes not beating guys up and getting them out early with crowd pleasing ko's...

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