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Better win if it happens, Mayweather-Canelo or Pacquiao-Crawford?
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Originally posted by el*** View PostFloyd at 41 would have a really good chance at beating crawford.
Pac wouldnt have much chance of beating 23 year old 152lb canelo.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postthurman wasn't prime now? he didnt look amazing in his fight before ok...floyd didnt look very good against augustus and that was before corrales. i guess floyd wasnt prime... every fight is different. there was no pattern of drop off from thumran. for example mosley against margarito, mosley looked good(to a certain extent) but his fights before that he looked like ass. that was an outlier and the truth was he was done. thurman not looking very good was an outlier if anything
Thurman had a long ass layoff and almost knocked out in his return fight.
Obviously wasn't as sharp as he was when he fought Garcia and Porter.
It was a really good win! But once we start comparing i have no choice but to bring up these details the PacFans wanna disregard.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostThurman was more proven than nel o and it wasn't a cw.
Thurman didn't look great before fighting Pac but you can argue thurman didn't take him.
seriously.
But taking everything into account Pac had it all to do a lot going against him, had all disadvantages against him, history was against him.
Floyd didn't have a lot going against him. Floyd looked as good as he ever has against nelo you could say that was prime Floyd and you wouldn't be far wrong. Nel o wasn't a monster, he hadn't killed any killers in ring, there was no need for a cw. Not on strength of what nel o had did up to that point.
Unless Floyd had Crystal ball and could see nelo future and that freaked Floyd out! But nel o was all about potential. After nel o lost to Floyd it was uncertain if nel o would amount to anything. Floyd had faith in nel o though even if people underwhelmed by him
Its a reason why i chose Crawford win over Canelo Win.
And i would have rated Thurman win higher but not with that layoff. That layoff is the difference between it being a really good win to a great win.
Same way Canelo win i dont rate as high when bringing up his resume at the time and how green he was. But give points back for fighting at his highest weight.
Imo....
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uFloyd s sole reason for CW seems to stem from nelo hydrated to a big weight? It certainly wasn't because of a particular performance from nelo. Entering fight i bet Floyd didn't say to himself i hope the nel o who beat trout don't turn up or the nel o who beat ssm then I'd be in for hard night! For it to be a great win it was because nel o was supposedly much bigger but Floyd took that away with cw, nel o being bigger was supposed to be selling point but Floyd sabotaged it.
Because wed not seen a elite performance yet from nelo. Whereas for pac, I bet Pac was thinking I hope the thurman who beat guerrero, or collazos or Garcia don't turn up.
Just because thurman didn't do great in last fight Pac didn't know what thurman would show up, Pac had no reason to think thurman wouldn't be better as we've all seen what thurman could do! And thurman was indeed.much better against pac
Yet for floyd, there was no version of nel o that should have worried floyd. That's why thurman victory is better.
Pac was nearer 41 than 40. 41 years old don't do what Pac did. 35 year olds do do what floyd did. Yes 35 is getting on a bit, but it's not an age where you don't expect fighters to not perform.
Ss m was 39 when he fought floydLast edited by hugh grant; 06-03-2020, 02:42 PM.
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lol. is this a joke thread???
pac win over dela hoya is much better than floyd over nelo. both are zombie but pac was 4-1 underdog while floyd was 2-1 favorite...
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Originally posted by daggum View Postpac couldnt beat a completely drained canelo? why not? he looked like a bum in that fight too scared to throw punches against pillow punching floyd. he would probably be stopped like hoya was. what was he saving his energy for the 13th round or something against floyd?
Canelo was strong to the finish, he normally slowed and showed stamina issues in the last 1/2, with Floyd he was on pace for the entire 12 rds.
Canelos snap was there, his legs were there, go and apply the same criteria to Cotto at 145.
Pillow punching Floyd that coment shows your mentality and lack of boxing knowledge, you really are just a hater throwing out ridicules hate confetti whenever you can without any logic to back it up .
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Originally posted by pasawayako View Postlol. is this a joke thread???
pac win over dela hoya is much better than floyd over nelo. both are zombie but pac was 4-1 underdog while floyd was 2-1 favorite...
You are pure fanboy.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View PostCanelos snap was there, his legs were there, go and apply the same criteria to Cotto at 145.
What has floyd did at 154 to show he beats Nell at 154?
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