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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by JK1700
    I thought he lost the JMM fight. I watched it without commentary and thought he got beat and got a gift. What’s interesting is you can make a strong argument that JMM’s only real loss to Floyd. I had him beating everyone else, had the first Pac fight a draw, he beat Norwood and I had him winning 10/12 rounds vs Chris John (one of the worst robberies ever, it’s in my top 3). It says a lot about Floyd that this guy couldn’t win a single round against him. You could also make a strong argument he won all 4 Pacquiao fights. I thought he won 3 and drew the first one.
    This was kind of where I was going. I thought it was a good close fight that could’ve gone either way.

    Now I know triangle theories are not valid. That stated, Floyd fought a younger and fresher JMM and he completely dominated him.

    I also understand Floyd only had to get down to 146 and not 144 as originally agreed. But he didn’t use his size imo to defeat jmm.

    I’m not dissing Tim in any way but I just can’t see how a boxer that is slower and has shorter arms than Floyd is going to outbox him.

    I think Floyd is as bad a matchup for Tim as he was for manny and jmm.

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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      This was kind of where I was going. I thought it was a good close fight that could’ve gone either way.

      Now I know triangle theories are not valid. That stated, Floyd fought a younger and fresher JMM and he completely dominated him.

      I also understand Floyd only had to get down to 146 and not 144 as originally agreed. But he didn’t use his size imo to defeat jmm.

      I’m not dissing Tim in any way but I just can’t see how a boxer that is slower and has shorter arms than Floyd is going to outbox him.

      I think Floyd is as bad a matchup for Tim as he was for manny and jmm.
      Its what Ive said for years , nobody and I mean nobody in History that is smaller than Floyd could beat him.

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      • True-Boxing-Fan
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        You reference the JMM fight.
        That was a SD win for Tim. Very close fight.

        Tim had success against JMM because he has a 2 inch reach advantage over jmm. Is a bit more athletic and about as fast.

        He has a 3 in reach shorter than Floyd, is less athletic and is far slower than Floyd. Would you agree?

        How does Tim overcome these disadvantages and make it a competitive fight?
        Well, he overcomes his shortcomings he has against Floyd using is unbreakable heart and unwavering determination to make it a competitive fight in a losing effort. To say it would just be easy work for Floyd is nonsense.

        Look at his first fights with Castillo and maidana. On paper in every category Floyd has all the advantages except power vs maidana. And among a lot of people they thought Floyd lost those fights. Those two dude used heart and determination to overcome their disadvantages and had a huge will to win. And virtually they did win in a lot of people’s eyes.

        So imo Bradley would be absolutely competitive in a lo losing effort.

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          #44
          Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
          Well, he overcomes his shortcomings he has against Floyd using is unbreakable heart and unwavering determination to make it a competitive fight in a losing effort. To say it would just be easy work for Floyd is nonsense.

          Look at his first fights with Castillo and maidana. On paper in every category Floyd has all the advantages except power vs maidana. And among a lot of people they thought Floyd lost those fights. Those two dude used heart and determination to overcome their disadvantages and had a huge will to win. And virtually they did win in a lot of people’s eyes.

          So imo Bradley would be absolutely competitive in a lo losing effort.
          You understand Maidana was 166lbs on fight night and Castillo was 12lbs heavier than Floyd, thats the very first difference then their styles is nothing like Tim Bradley who is a walk up boxer he is not an aggressive non stop punching bigger guy.

          Tim is too mechanical and too small to give Floyd any trouble at all and I think you chose Floyds close fights without looking at the styles and weights of the fighters you mention.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Floyd fought a younger and fresher JMM and he completely dominated him.

            I also understand Floyd only had to get down to 146 and not 144 as originally agreed. But he didn’t use his size imo to defeat jmm.

            I’m not dissing Tim in any way but I just can’t see how a boxer that is slower and has shorter arms than Floyd is going to outbox him
            - -Teensy Jesus Chavez mullered U boy.

            TUE 51-0 never fought BALCO Juan. He fought the Juan training on his own peewater spritzers.

            U noob not to know this?

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            • Roadblock
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              #46
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Teensy Jesus Chavez mullered U boy.

              TUE 51-0 never fought BALCO Juan. He fought the Juan training on his own peewater spritzers.

              U noob not to know this?
              How many times Manny been stopped, they real loses !

              Seems you dont understand real loses from fantasy loses.

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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                This was kind of where I was going. I thought it was a good close fight that could’ve gone either way.

                Now I know triangle theories are not valid. That stated, Floyd fought a younger and fresher JMM and he completely dominated him.

                I also understand Floyd only had to get down to 146 and not 144 as originally agreed. But he didn’t use his size imo to defeat jmm.

                I’m not dissing Tim in any way but I just can’t see how a boxer that is slower and has shorter arms than Floyd is going to outbox him.

                I think Floyd is as bad a matchup for Tim as he was for manny and jmm.
                Triangle theories are valid when the two guys have similar styles

                Timmeh was discounted Floyd without special effects and at least a level lower

                Timmeh fought an older JMM and tried to do what Floyd. Except Timmeh went 7-5 with JMM

                Timmeh isn’t on Floyd’s level but has a similar style. Yeah Floyd gives him a boxing lesson
                Last edited by GrandpaBernard; 06-02-2020, 05:47 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
                  Well, he overcomes his shortcomings he has against Floyd using is unbreakable heart and unwavering determination to make it a competitive fight in a losing effort. To say it would just be easy work for Floyd is nonsense.

                  Look at his first fights with Castillo and maidana. On paper in every category Floyd has all the advantages except power vs maidana. And among a lot of people they thought Floyd lost those fights. Those two dude used heart and determination to overcome their disadvantages and had a huge will to win. And virtually they did win in a lot of people’s eyes.

                  So imo Bradley would be absolutely competitive in a lo losing effort.
                  Between JLC and Maidana four fight total with Floyd

                  Only case of Floyd not winning was JLC 1.

                  Anyways JLC and Maidana both have something Timmeh doesn’t.

                  They’re educated Latin pressure fighters

                  Timmeh wouldn’t bring it to Floyd the way Cotto did let alone Maidana & JLC

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                    #49
                    manny who is one or two levels better than Tim only won 2 clear rounds against Floyd

                    Yet Timmeh who a discounted Mayweather supposed to take 4 or 5 rounds off Floyd? Lmao

                    Timmeh wins zero or maybe a round

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #50
                      These floyd fans keep using triangle theories it's annoying as heck. Floyd might be favourite but you still got to fight. Timothy better than most of Floyd s resume so why all this getting off fantasizing beating Tommy rather than actually have more than 1 win over Tommy like pac has?
                      Pac beats all common opponents more dominant than floyd so of course stops Nelo in 7 rounds?
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 06-02-2020, 07:12 PM.

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