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  • #31
    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
    You mean the same way he dominated Wach , Rivas and Parker

    Gtfoh

    I ain’t no Fury fan but I’ll gladly support him before fughin Dillian Shyte
    Just curious, who are you a fan of at heavyweight?

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    • #32
      Fury would beat the **** out of Whyte. What kind of fight is this? Lol

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
        Fury isn't some kind of god in the ring. Wilder has caught him every fight they had - not to mention put him down twice. Just the fact that Whyte and Fury sparred a lot and Whyte is desperate for the fight should tell you something. He clearly fancies his chances and Fury keeps running. Fury has fought one top-20 opponent in 5 years. Whyte has a fought a whole bunch. Go figure.
        The gypsy god. New title.

        Fury was out of boxing for how long? Then blew up, had to lose all that weight. Losing all that weight isn't the same as getting into boxing shape so he wasn't 100% in boxing shape fighting wilder 1.

        How has fury run away from whyte? He wasn't coming back to fight someone without a title. Besides the cake matches for show and ring training for wilder...

        Whyte could have fought wilder but he dodged his mandatory Ortiz. Then failed a drug test that they swept under the rug. I feel for the guy in respect that he's been shafted for so long without a title fight for the wbc but he blew it when he refused to fight his mandatory.

        Let's face it, the hw division only has a handful of top contenders then it's a significant drop. So everyone is fighting lesser opponents. Everyone points fingers at every fighter saying they haven't fought anyone. That's why we need the best fighting the best and not these bs scrub matches.

        I'm down for all of them to fight each other. That's what we all want!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by angkag View Post
          Fury's biggest opponent is himself. When he is fully committed and prepared, I think he beats them all, but its fight-to-fight and everything depends on his mental state building up to the fight and during it.

          Whyte might be the one to beat him only because he's the one Fury most likely to not take seriously.
          very true. It's boxing anyone can beat anyone given the right circumstances.

          Whyte could give him trouble. He does go for the body a lot and has heart. The last handful of fights I'm just seeing a slower, huffn and puffin overweight fighter.

          I mean let's be real about Parker. Good guy, has all the tools but lacks a killer instinct. He wants to be the nice guy but that makes you weak in the ring. Plus he gets easily frustrated it seems. I mean AJ and whyte didn't go at him aggressively for the kill. Here and there, box around, ect... Wilder would lay parker out. Fury would also unless he decided to box him.

          But yeah i agree with you. Whyte could be a sleeper against fury.

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          • #35
            Lol at the casuals on here thinking that a bum like Whyte can beat Tyson Fury.

            That bum won't win a single round. Levels.

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            • #36
              This was my problem with Wilder. All of his fans sat back and said he "woulda and coulda" beat this guy or that guy...so he never fought them. Yet he still got credit as if he had actually fought them. That's not how boxing is supposed to work. You should get the credit AFTER you beat a guy in the ring. Now all of you are saying that Fury can beat any heavyweight alive yet he has only fought 2 good ones while the rest of his resume is full of bums and gatekeepers. If he fights AJ, Whyte, BuBois and the rest of the up and coming heavyweights, then much respect to him. But I can guarantee you that he is going to skip over the majority of these guys and still run around like he beat everybody, which is not true. And a lot of you idiotic fans with praise him for that, just like you praised Wilder who ducked most of the top 25 boxers.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by theface07 View Post
                Just curious, who are you a fan of at heavyweight?

                Not a fan of the three whining biatches that are at the top right now
                There much more interested in making tweets or ig than actually fighting each other

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jack Rivers View Post
                  The gypsy god. New title.

                  Fury was out of boxing for how long? Then blew up, had to lose all that weight. Losing all that weight isn't the same as getting into boxing shape so he wasn't 100% in boxing shape fighting wilder 1.

                  How has fury run away from whyte? He wasn't coming back to fight someone without a title. Besides the cake matches for show and ring training for wilder...

                  Whyte could have fought wilder but he dodged his mandatory Ortiz. Then failed a drug test that they swept under the rug. I feel for the guy in respect that he's been shafted for so long without a title fight for the wbc but he blew it when he refused to fight his mandatory.

                  Let's face it, the hw division only has a handful of top contenders then it's a significant drop. So everyone is fighting lesser opponents. Everyone points fingers at every fighter saying they haven't fought anyone. That's why we need the best fighting the best and not these bs scrub matches.

                  I'm down for all of them to fight each other. That's what we all want!
                  I don't get what you say about Whyte - Fury himself said he would 100% fight Whyte, but only if the WBC made it for the Diamond belt - and then to Fury's horror - the WBC called his bluff and agreed lol. Fury couldn't run away fast enough. He is never going to fight Whyte unless Whyte has a title

                  Whyte doesn't need to fight Ortiz. All that stuff is hilarious. Who did Fury fight to get his title shot against Wilder - it was Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianette (neither even in the top-50). Who did Dominic Breazeale fight to get his title shot against Wilder? 2 more bums.

                  Whyte has fought 3 (will be 4 next fight) current top-10 Heavyweights. Joshua has fought 4 (will be 5 next fight). Wilder has fought 2 and Fury has fought 1. Go figure.
                  Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 06-03-2020, 09:53 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Froch_uppercut View Post
                    It's refreshing to see some people actually looking at what is going on in boxing and not getting swept away in hype around Wilder and Fury. Fury may turn out to be decent, but I still say he is not fully tested against a long run of quality opponents.
                    He's a had a couple long runs against nobodies, lost to J Mac, struggled badly with Wallin, and has a steady diet of Sefer Seferi's and Tom Schwartz, Pianetta, Cristian Hammer and other nobodies on his bog average record. He beat a lethargic Wlad (still, did very well) and I give him credit for his Chisora wins. Wilder was pure hype and Wilder loses badly to AJ, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, Dubois, Hrgovic, Joyce, Ajagba, Usyk and about half a dozen others. And that's the problem. People cannot see when they're being sold something. Wilder was sold as some kinda big puncher. He is crap, and many hw's of the past must cringe when they hear his supposed punching power being vaunted.
                    Lewis was a better puncher, as was Razor Ruddock' Joshua is a bigger puncher, as is Whyte. Tyson was a bigger puncher as was Foreman. Please people, stop inflating these guys who have not fought anyone. It was all hype, and careful matching, while he ducked as Finkel colluded with the WBC and cut Suliman in. All the while this lying C**t ignored Joshua and literally ignored phone calls and e mails trying to make the fight. (Ask Lou DiBella). At one point he even bragged that he got them to the point that they were "begging him to make the fight". If you believe Wilder, you are probably one of the fools who believe the words that flow from Trump's mouth. How come people are so f*****g ******?
                    I agree with everything you write there - except I suspect Wilder is pretty good even so. He is so fast and has that huge punch. if he can land on Fury he can land on anyone. David Haye said hits harder than anyone he has ever been hit by and Haye has been in with Wlad and other big dudes.

                    What's happened with Wilder - is he lost to Fury once and everyone now suddenly assumes he is terrible. Basically Wilder is unproven. We need to see him in with more top-10 guys. Beating an old Ortiz doesn't really tell us much. But yes he has been massively hyped on a record with mostly nobodies in it. Which links to Fury nicely - Like you say great wins against Wlad and Wilder but Wlad was old and Wilder unproven. We need to see Fury prove himself too. The fact that neither of these guys are fighting better fighters on a regular basis does make me suspect they have struggled against decent fighters in sparring.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
                      I agree with everything you write there - except I suspect Wilder is pretty good even so. He is so fast and has that huge punch. if he can land on Fury he can land on anyone. David Haye said hits harder than anyone he has ever been hit by and Haye has been in with Wlad and other big dudes.

                      What's happened with Wilder - is he lost to Fury once and everyone now suddenly assumes he is terrible. Basically Wilder is unproven. We need to see him in with more top-10 guys. Beating an old Ortiz doesn't really tell us much. But yes he has been massively hyped on a record with mostly nobodies in it. Which links to Fury nicely - Like you say great wins against Wlad and Wilder but Wlad was old and Wilder unproven. We need to see Fury prove himself too. The fact that neither of these guys are fighting better fighters on a regular basis does make me suspect they have struggled against decent fighters in sparring.
                      Pretty much recognize and agree with what you're saying. The question comes down to "how many guys does a guy need to beat to get past the 'untested' moniker?"

                      Fury has really one on his record, maybe two if you include Wilder.
                      But is it right to include Wilder, who himself has only Stiverne as his best win (or Ortiz, who has never beaten a champion).
                      So we ended up with two guys who have iffy history / not really great resume's but we got told that they were the best each fighting each other. Nope man. Joe Parker is a fuc***g beast. Watch his fight with Whyte, who is a very very good hw (better resume than Wilder), and those guys went life and death.
                      Wilder is at best, David Price level with a better chin. Pricey has a big punch, but his chin did not carry him as far as Wilder's has. I am very happy to see, as a boxing fan, people realizing that they had the wool pulled over their eyes with Wilder. He just doesn't fight the top dudes. I'll blame him but Finkel has a lot to answer for too.

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