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  • Citizen Koba
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    #11
    Originally posted by Jerseyrated1
    Spence has NEVER been a special fighter all he does is throw hard punches, whats special about that? Danny by TKO that concrete took his teeth and chin, that major concussion he suffered will shorten his career, if you can't handle hard punches HES DONE
    All he does is 'throw hard punches' huh?

    Anyone can throw hard punches with a modicum of training, man, what most people can't do is land hard punches against dudes who have trained their whole life to avoid em and who are also firing back.

    Spence ain't got a whole lotta flash about him, you won't see much in the way of Floydesque shoulder rolls or Lomachenkos dancing feet, but what you will see is elite level fundamentals, a great understanding of range and top class punching technique... The essentials in other words, from which all else stems.

    If you ain't seeing those things you're missing 90% of all that happens in a boxing match. Without getting the basics right all the rest, the fancy stuff, will get you nothing except KTFO in short order.

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    • Monzon99
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      #12
      But the protected fraud wont fight Crawford. He will fight a hired dive like garcia or porter. Haymon will rig all of spences next fights because he's the only potential franchise he has left.

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      • 1hourRun
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        #13
        Hit the breaks Errol! I thought you would of learned that moving too fast is dangerous.

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        • markther
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          #14
          Garcia, Thurman, Manny, are all top guys for Spence to fight, Thurman only has 1 loss to Manny who is a legend. I don’t want to see Bud vs Spence yet. Bud needs a few top bodies on his resume from the Welterweight division to make that fight historically and financially great. Bud needs to get a body like Porter or Thurman or Garcia or Manny and then let’s see Bud vs Spence. And I am a fan of Bud & Spence.

          What if Bud went on to fight Porter and Thurman and Spence beat Garcia, now Bud vs Spence is massive. I seriously doubt if Manny gets in the ring with Bud or Spence.
          Last edited by markther; 06-01-2020, 08:21 AM.

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          • RL_GMA
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            #15
            Originally posted by markther
            Garcia, Thurman, Manny, are all top guys for Spence to fight, Thurman only has 1 loss to Manny who is a legend. I don’t want to see Bud vs Spence yet. Bud needs a few top bodies on his resume from the Welterweight division to make that fight historically and financially great. Bud needs to get a body like Porter or Thurman or Garcia or Manny and then let’s see Bud vs Spence. And I am a fan of Bud & Spence.

            What if Bud went on to fight Porter and Thurman and Spence beat Garcia, now Bud vs Spence is massive. I seriously doubt if Manny gets in the ring with Bud or Spence.
            There's not much wiggle room for that fight to be delayed another year. At its peak and I don't think Crawford vs Spence is any bigger than Oscar vs Tito (who mind you had COUNTRIES behind them). Some fights just aren't "Mass Appeal" fights but still NEED to happen. Spence is also physically growing out of the Division. The problem with Crawford trying to fight any of those guys not named Spence is those guys aren't looking for fights with Crawford more than trying to fight "Their" (PBC) Champ in Spence. Personally, I don't need to see Crawford beat Spence or Danny Garcia to know he can "hang" with Spence. If both Al and Bob legit put this fight together for 2021 it would do NUMBERS but nothing Record Breaking.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #16
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              This is gonna be interesting is all I know. I'm rooting for Errol to be the same Errol, but idk that that's gonna be the case. If he's not what he was Bud beats him cuz that was a close fight already & maybe Manny can upset the applecart too. I'd assume Danny is/was winnable either way but who knows. Everything is gonna feel more shaky til Errol shows up in the ring & proves he's the same guy.
              I agree, but I don't think the car accident is the sole danger in his return. I think the weight cutting is a big problem! He said he was nearly 190 before fighting Porter! That's insane for a WW!

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              • factsarenice
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                #17
                PBC play book 101.

                Spence will unquestionably fight Garcia and if he looks vulnerable enough "older then dirt" Pacquiao will offer a brinks truck payday.

                After that...don't expect Spence to fight Porter or Crawford. If Spence still has anything left he will instead move up. He'll take on guys he can walk down and talk up a Crawford showdown while facing one sided fights.

                That's the game plan...sound familiar?

                That's because it's right out of the PBC play book, like it or not.
                Last edited by factsarenice; 06-01-2020, 09:48 AM.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RL_GMA
                  There's not much wiggle room for that fight to be delayed another year. At its peak and I don't think Crawford vs Spence is any bigger than Oscar vs Tito (who mind you had COUNTRIES behind them). Some fights just aren't "Mass Appeal" fights but still NEED to happen. Spence is also physically growing out of the Division. The problem with Crawford trying to fight any of those guys not named Spence is those guys aren't looking for fights with Crawford more than trying to fight "Their" (PBC) Champ in Spence. Personally, I don't need to see Crawford beat Spence or Danny Garcia to know he can "hang" with Spence. If both Al and Bob legit put this fight together for 2021 it would do NUMBERS but nothing Record Breaking.
                  It's definitely not that, but it could be Leonard vs. Hearns! Crawford beating Porter or Pacquiao would definitely help sell Spence vs. Crawford! What do you think about Canelo vs. Spence @ 160 in 2021?

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                  • factsarenice
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RL_GMA
                    There's not much wiggle room for that fight to be delayed another year. At its peak and I don't think Crawford vs Spence is any bigger than Oscar vs Tito (who mind you had COUNTRIES behind them). Some fights just aren't "Mass Appeal" fights but still NEED to happen. Spence is also physically growing out of the Division. The problem with Crawford trying to fight any of those guys not named Spence is those guys aren't looking for fights with Crawford more than trying to fight "Their" (PBC) Champ in Spence. Personally, I don't need to see Crawford beat Spence or Danny Garcia to know he can "hang" with Spence. If both Al and Bob legit put this fight together for 2021 it would do NUMBERS but nothing Record Breaking.
                    Al Hayman has no intention of letting Spence fight Crawford. Spence will move up and fight guys he is expected to knock out. The PBC will treat Spence , Charlo and every other potential name the same as they did Wilder. Talk about fighting competitive, make excuses for not actually fighting and stick to easy competition.

                    It's not boxing it's a business plan, a plan that makes the PBC a lot of money
                    Last edited by factsarenice; 06-01-2020, 10:08 AM. Reason: spelling

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                    • factsarenice
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                      All he does is 'throw hard punches' huh?

                      Anyone can throw hard punches with a modicum of training, man, what most people can't do is land hard punches against dudes who have trained their whole life to avoid em and who are also firing back.

                      Spence ain't got a whole lotta flash about him, you won't see much in the way of Floydesque shoulder rolls or Lomachenkos dancing feet, but what you will see is elite level fundamentals, a great understanding of range and top class punching technique... The essentials in other words, from which all else stems.

                      If you ain't seeing those things you're missing 90% of all that happens in a boxing match. Without getting the basics right all the rest, the fancy stuff, will get you nothing except KTFO in short order.
                      Good points but styles make fights and Crawford has the style and that's why the fight won't happen. The amount of money Al Hayman will demand for pricing in Al Hayman's risk is more then the fight is worth.

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