Comments Thread For: Linares: Lomachenko Still Best At Lightweight; Don't Think Lopez Can Beat Him

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Teofimo Lopez has impressed Jorge Linares. The former WBA and WBC lightweight champion speaks from experience, however, when he says "it's a little different" when you fight Vasiliy Lomachenko. Linares knocked down Lomachenko with a right hand late in the sixth round of their back-and-forth fight in May 2018 at Madison Square Garden in New York.
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“Lomachenko is different right now. After my fight, Lomachenko changed so much, right? So much, but he’s still the best, for me.”

We seen the same if not a worse Bumchenko since Linares dropped him, if you ask me. Vasily is on the slide, if Luke Campbell had Lomachenko hurt in the mid-rounds and Linares hit Lomachenko with wicked combos and dropped him, I would not be shocked if Lomachenko ends up on the floor against Tefimo Lopez.

Toprank will no doubt send in Jack Reiss to protect their 'Franchise' chumpion.

Edit: I forgot that Teofimo is also with Toprank, so maybe Lomachenko will have to win this one without any help. No wonder Lomachenko has been complaining about fighting Lopez.

[MulaKO]

We seen the same if not a worse Bumchenko since Linares dropped him, if you ask me. Vasily is on the slide, if Luke Campbell had Lomachenko hurt in the mid-rounds and Linares hit Lomachenko with wicked combos and dropped him, I would not be shocked if Lomachenko ends up on the floor against Tefimo Lopez.

Toprank will no doubt send in Jack Reiss to protect their 'Franchise' chumpion.

Edit: I forgot that Teofimo is also with Toprank, so maybe Lomachenko will have to win this one without any help. No wonder Lomachenko has been complaining about fighting Lopez.

Hate , hate , hate
Then the editing

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Hate , hate , hate
Then the editing

Lmfao
Smfh

I'm starting to think that Bob Arum might screw Teofimo on the cards, let me tell you why : Toprank petition the WBC for the 'Franchise' lightweight title. Now according to the World Boxing Council, the 'Franchise' title can not be transferred. Therefore, if Teofimo KO's Bumchenko Toprank will loose all ties to the WBC ; as stated, you can not win the 'Franchise' title.

But maybe the plan all along was to avoid Devin Haney, so in that sense the 'Franchise' title served a purpose. Who knows what old Bob Arum is cooking, we just have to stay tuned.

[MulaKO]

I'm starting to think that Bob Arum might screw Teofimo on the cards, let me tell you why : Toprank petition the WBC for the 'Franchise' lightweight title. Now according to the World Boxing Council, the 'Franchise' title can not be transferred. Therefore, if Teofimo KO's Bumchenko Toprank will loose all ties to the WBC ; as stated, you can not win the 'Franchise' title.

But maybe the plan all along was to avoid Devin Haney, so in that sense the 'Franchise' title served a purpose. Who knows what old Bob Arum is cooking, we just have to stay tuned.

I think your reaching

[TarasMarcenko]

What?

I'm starting to think that Bob Arum might screw Teofimo on the cards, let me tell you why : Toprank petition the WBC for the 'Franchise' lightweight title. Now according to the World Boxing Council, the 'Franchise' title can not be transferred. Therefore, if Teofimo KO's Bumchenko Toprank will loose all ties to the WBC ; as stated, you can not win the 'Franchise' title.

But maybe the plan all along was to avoid Devin Haney, so in that sense the 'Franchise' title served a purpose. Who knows what old Bob Arum is cooking, we just have to stay tuned.

Haney shouldn't have been gifted that belt. He should have been made to fight for it against Campbell. Haney did nothing to deserve it except get skipped over in the Loma and Campbell fight. Loma was NEVER mandated to fight Haney next after the Campbell win. The rules are absolutely clear, undisputed bout trumps mando everytime, 100 percent of the time. Franchise was not not awarded to Loma with the specific agenda so he could specifically not fight Haney. Haney is just the fighter who benefitted in getting a belt. Could have been any fighter in that position, not specifically Haney. Haney is not even better than Campbell or prime Linares. Definitely not more powerful or more skilled than Teo.

Haney got lucky. Loma deserved Franchise. Haney was just in the right spot at the right time to get a free belt that was Loma's, not his. Loma didn"t give the belt to Haney, Suieleman did. Loma was not in that decision making process.

As far as he knew they could treat it as an empty belt and have had Haney and Campbell fight for it. Sounds like Sueileman appeased Haney for Hearns. Remember Campbell was higher ranked than Haney. Campbell loses to Loma so suddenly he is worse than Haney?

Franchise had nothing to do with Haney. Anyone who reads it from the myopic stance that this Franchise decision by Suileman was about Haney is out of context and pissed they are not seeing a Haney & Loma fight immediately. But Loma is going for the IBF first, then he stated two fights he wants are Tank and Haney. All good things down the line. Any black fight fan of a black fighter would not think it smart that thier fighter in Loma's position, should fight a non belt holder rather than for undisputed and a belt holder. Teo bests Haney, beats Haney, 9 out of ten times. He is a bigger challenge for Loma. Haney is no slouch but he fought cans to get here. He can fight Loma after the Loma and Teo fight, if Loma wins. All the Haney racist fans want Haney to have a crack at winning all four belts before Teo. Cause it looks like prime pickings, Loma being too small for 135 with all the weight bullys. Lets see if Loma can beat all these big fighters with the skill that Franchise fighter should possess.

Once he fights Haney he comes full circle and closes this chapter. Sueileman was drooling to get a chance to nab Loma. Clearly the best fighter to come out in a generation. 2 gold medals and best amateur record in history. Not fighting cans. And able to beat champions in 3 divisions. Eight 5 star fighters in 15 fights. Haney Zero 5 star fighters in 24 fights.

Yeah, Haney was the reason Loma was given Franchise. Really? Haney was all that to influence this?

[Citizen Koba]

I'm starting to think that Bob Arum might screw Teofimo on the cards, let me tell you why : Toprank petition the WBC for the 'Franchise' lightweight title. Now according to the World Boxing Council, the 'Franchise' title can not be transferred. Therefore, if Teofimo KO's Bumchenko Toprank will loose all ties to the WBC ; as stated, you can not win the 'Franchise' title.

But maybe the plan all along was to avoid Devin Haney, so in that sense the 'Franchise' title served a purpose. Who knows what old Bob Arum is cooking, we just have to stay tuned.

Bob's all about the $$$s, man.

You think Arum sees more profit in a 32 year Ukrainian with maybe 3 or 4 years left at the highest level than he does in a 22 year old American KO artist with a decade or more in front of him at 140 and 147?

Honestly if I'm Arum I don't really want this fight to happen at all... Why would he want either of em to take an L? Don't be surprised if Covid related budgeting issues delay it until Teo is unable to healthily make 135 any more. Just a thought.

[TarasMarcenko]

All Good Calls

We seen the same if not a worse Bumchenko since Linares dropped him, if you ask me. Vasily is on the slide, if Luke Campbell had Lomachenko hurt in the mid-rounds and Linares hit Lomachenko with wicked combos and dropped him, I would not be shocked if Lomachenko ends up on the floor against Tefimo Lopez.

Toprank will no doubt send in Jack Reiss to protect their 'Franchise' chumpion.

Edit: I forgot that Teofimo is also with Toprank, so maybe Lomachenko will have to win this one without any help. No wonder Lomachenko has been complaining about fighting Lopez.

All Good calls.

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Haney shouldn't have been gifted that belt. He should have been made to fight for it against Campbell. Haney did nothing to deserve it except get skipped over in the Loma and Campbell fight.

I wonder why that never happened. "It's No-machenko because he doesn't want to fight me," said Haney

Loma was NEVER mandated to fight Haney next after the Campbell win.

The full champion is obligated to fight the 'interim' champ. You know how you get around that? Maybe you petition the WBC for 'FRANCHISE' status.

The rules are absolutely clear, undisputed bout trumps mando everytime, 100 percent of the time. Franchise was not not awarded to Loma with the specific agenda so he could specifically not fight Haney.

This is true, but you know that team Lomachenko were aware that he would be exempt from obligations as the WBC lightweight champion, namely solidifying the WBC lightweight title with the 'Interim' champion, Devin 'The Dream' Haney.

Haney is not even better than Campbell or prime Linares. Definitely not more powerful or more skilled than Teo.

Would the bookies favor Luke Campbell or Jorge Linares over Devin Haney? Teofimo Lopez is a even fight.

Haney got lucky. Loma deserved Franchise.

Did Bumchenko deserve a opportunity to win the WBO featherweight title in his second professional fight? I think this euro-bum is privileged.

Haney was just in the right spot at the right time to get a free belt that was Loma's, not his. Loma didn"t give the belt to Haney, Suieleman did. Loma was not in that decision making process.

You mean Devin Haney was not competing, climbing up the WBC ranks to earn a opportunity?

Once he fights Haney he comes full circle and closes this chapter. Sueileman was drooling to get a chance to nab Loma.

I wonder how Mauricio accomplished nabbing Lomachenko?

Clearly the best fighter to come out in a generation.

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Yeah, Haney was the reason Loma was given Franchise. Really?

When did I say that? I said, Lomachenko simply avoided Devin Haney by way of the WBC 'Franchise' title. It a fact.

Bob's all about the $$$s, man.

You think Arum sees more profit in a 32 year Ukrainian with maybe 3 or 4 years left at the highest level than he does in a 22 year old American KO artist with a decade or more in front of him at 140 and 147?

Honestly if I'm Arum I don't really want this fight to happen at all... Why would he want either of em to take an L? Don't be surprised if Covid related budgeting issues delay it until Teo is unable to healthily make 135 any more. Just a thought.

Teofimo can take a loss at this early stage of his career, like Bumchenko did vs. Orlandoe Salido. Bob Arum fixed it : In a screw job, Teo is seen as the uncrowned champion and Vasily can press for a rematch. I think a screw-job is also profitable, one loss to a champion considered P4P is not the end of the road, but losing to a bum like Orlandoe Salidoe is another matter -- OH WAIT!

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Still not sure the Teo v Loma fight will happen, but if it does, Loma is likely to be at peak in the fight. Meantime Teo is still learning and is coming down from 160 to make 135, a weight he has repeatedly said he is outgrowing.

Teo will have a punchers chance for the first few rounds, but if he fails to land anything fight-changing, the pace that Loma always sets will leave Teo exhausted and defenceless by the 10th. Its Teo early, or Loma late - no way it goes 12, so the judges will be irrelevant.