Crawford or Spence Becomes Bigger Star Whooping manny

[Roadblock]

manny already passed the torch to jeff horn. you guys are being racists!

Crawford stopped Horn .

[daggum]

Crawford stopped Horn .

that was my underlying point. he already beat someone who is better than manny.

[Roadblock]

that was my underlying point. he already beat someone who is better than manny.

Horn is better than Manny, thats where it becomes vaporware .

Manny is a big stepping stone for any elite, and if you beat him easy it means a lot because Manny is no easy beat for anyone.

[BodyBagz]

Same with GGG, People will say Pac was too old to win.
If Pac fights and destroys someone with a low ko %, his fans will say he's the p4p king.

[bluebeam]

Same with GGG, People will say Pac was too old to win.
If Pac fights and destroys someone with a low ko %, his fans will say he's the p4p king.

If Pacquiao beats spence or bud, he is going to number 1 on my p4p list.

[BodyBagz]

If Pacquiao beats spence or bud, he is going to number 1 on my p4p list.

A healthy Spence or Bud would be nice.....Not a 80% Spence or Bud who just can't pass up the paycheck.

And don't give me ''an 80% opponent makes it even since Pac is so old.''

Pac spent most of his WW life fighting guys with little power or chance. Spence and Bud would be the exception, even if they themselves have not beaten a significant opponent (Porter and Postol were nice wins).

[BoloShot]

Spence. He's already on the radar and is recognized as the people's champ. A 147 version of what Wilder was to heavyweight who just needed that one fight to get there.
Bud might not be ppv status even after beating Manny. Partly due to Arum not knowing how to market him, partly due to his more quiet personality. The nature of all entertainment is that louder personalities get more attention.

Many. including myself, thought he lost to Porter so how is he the people's champ?

[Gate keeper]

Honestly it's hard to see Crawford becoming a star with Top Rank. Imo part of a fighters rise to stardom is the allure of the coming collision course with a worthy opponent who's a threat to a fighters aura of dominance. With GGG, it was eventually Canelo. For a time for Spence it was Keith Thurman but now is Crawford. It's also why good PPVs generally do way more than either fighter could do on their own, because it's the allure that creates the majority of the interest not fans just wanting to see a particular fighter in action. And so long as Crawford is with Top Rank, there's a strong chance those collisions won't happen since almost all the top ww fighters are with PBC. That drastically weakens the allure that makes fighters interesting. I mean even if Crawford fights and beats Pac, for example, who does he fight next if not a PBC fighter? A Kavaluaskis rematch?

[Jim Tom]

Spence would become the bigger star. A win over Pac would take the PPV visibility he has slowly built up and push it to the next level.

Crawford beating Pac would only serve to finally put him on the radar, it would be his first successful PPV.

I don’t see how the drunk can beat Manny but if he does then that’s good for him. I don’t think the drunk will have longevity because even if he wins sooner or later he has to fight Crawford who will expose him as nothing more than a mirage.

[hansS]

Manny has accomplished enough. Let Spence and Crawford fight each other.