Should promoters take less of a cut going forward?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    Should promoters take less of a cut going forward?

    Or is it just the fighters who should make less money given the current world situation?
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    The fighters should keep making more money and the promoters should make less. Most of the promoters in the 90’s and 2000’s were complete crooks and I’m glad it’s finally starting to turn around for the fighters. Hopefully we can see more of them retiring with their health in tact and less guys fighting way past their peak. There’s no way guys who earned millions should’ve still been fighting at 45 and 50.

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      #3
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Or is it just the fighters who should make less money given the current world situation?
      - -When a shoulder roll can't roll with a punch...Boner Jr?

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        #4
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -When a shoulder roll can't roll with a punch...Boner Jr?
        Great point. Scintillating discussion points from you, as always.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Or is it just the fighters who should make less money given the current world situation?

          They are the only one’s who can afford to

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            #6
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            They are the only one’s who can afford to
            Who, the fighters? Or the promoters?

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              #7
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Who, the fighters? Or the promoters?


              Obviously the promoters
              Although the fighters can downscale themselves
              No ?

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                #8
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                Obviously the promoters
                Although the fighters can downscale themselves
                No ?
                Most of the talk lately has been about lowering PPV prices and fighters taking less if there is no live gate revenues.

                If lean times are coming it would seem fair that promoters make less profits too, though. Not just the fighters.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Most of the talk lately has been about lowering PPV prices and fighters taking less if there is no live gate revenues.

                  If lean times are coming it would seem fair that promoters make less profits too, though. Not just the fighters.


                  I’d say first the promoters then negotiate with the fighters
                  Don’t get me wrong , I respect what they do and obviously they’re pulling for the most
                  But sometimes the fight don’t balance with the fight
                  Ffs , Broner is trying to get 10 million to fight
                  Far from 10 but he’ll probably get 6 , not a bad deal imo
                  Is he worth it ?

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                  • sunny31
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                    I think as someone already mentioned, in the past they were taking bigger percentages, ripping people off, paying flat fees where the show made much more. But I think fighters are much more educated now, they are more clued up, and Al Haymon was a big part of that. He changed the game, as far as making sure his fighters made the lion share of the purse, credit to him.

                    Eddie Hearn, kind of took the baton and ran with it. He has employed the same "open book" policy with his fighters, and from what I understand he only pays flat fees where the fighter decides they dont want to take the risk on how well the show performs, but on the whole he is 80-20% with his fighters. I'm sure he takes less with Joshua, as that is a special case, and there lies Hearn's strongest quality imo, he is flexible, and always willing to work with people.

                    Overall - I think boxing is moving in the right direction as far as promoters are concerned.

                    The main problem now is, that fighters hide behind promoters, and promoters prefer "in house" fights for various reasons. Many fighters prefer to fight only twice a year now.
                    They are getting paid well, also there is a reluctance for fighters to take consecutive tough fights, I think a lot of this is down to the "Floyd effect" - there are some exceptions however.

                    As far as the thread question, it's too loaded really - depends on the situation, factoring in all of the above. Is Eddie worth 20%? Is PBC? Depends if they are paying you more than you could get elsewhere
                    Last edited by sunny31; 05-14-2020, 04:52 AM.

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