Proof that under zero circumstances did Martinez duck ggg. Nopal smoke session

[JohnCastellanos]

I'm not mixing up anything. Again, your LOW IQ seems to mix things up now doesnt it?

We agree Martinez didnt duck GGG, BUT YOU THINK GGG DUCKED MARTINEZ.

THAT is where we disagree.

Did you explicitly say that to me? Nope, but you said it others. You just love to contradict yourself dont you?

And for the paper champ/GGG never fought any real champions lmfao. You got ****ing owned there too! Yet here you are pretending like you didnt trying to salvage whatever the hell you can.

Your argument: GGG is a coward because he only fights for vacant belts. Hes not a real champion because he didnt beat any champions. He ducked Martinez.

My argument: How the **** can GGG fight champions for their belts when:

-WBA protect Strum from GGG by -creating the super belt?
-Geale is stripped of his WBA super belt because he refused to fight mandatory challenger GGG and that's the same guy who beat Strum and GGG knocked him out
-Cotto (WBC) paid GGG step aside money
-Canelo vacates the WBC belt

Add on top when he wins championship belts there are less champions to face? When you own 3 out of the 4 major belts how many champions are left?

And before you say GGG ducked the last guy let me ask, how many people in boxing history have held 3 of the 4 major belts and how many people have been undisputed?

Take a good guess before you tell me GGG ducked BJS or whomever you wanna call out.

Its GGGs fault no one wanted to face him right? And that's what makes him a coward who only fights for vacated belts right?

And you'll say ****** **** like GGG wasnt in a position to challenge Martinez, but GGG ducked him.

Lmfao. What a ****ing contradiction to save face. Why do you keep humiliating yourself?

It's even funnier because you'll say stuff like GGG is ducking Charlo and Andrade.

Apply your own damn logic to Charlo and Andrade and you seem to think these two are bonified killers.

Tell me, if GGG was a paper champ who the hell are these dudes and who did the beat to win their championships?

Andrade beat a nobody for his vacant WBO belt and is still fighting nobodies. A guy ranked what? 30th, 120th, and 12th? Some **** like that?

Charlo beat the air and was literally gifted his.

Neither have a claim to being the best in the division but GGG ducking these guys too.

Let's just admit that you're a hater and it doesnt matter what GGG does because you hate him.

GGG ducked Martinez still right? And GGG only fights for vacated belts because hes a coward and bum right?

Now you are just lying about what I said. I never said ggg ducked Martinez, the closest thing I said to that is he wanted nothing to do with him because he was already on an easier and more secure path with the WBA but YOU on the other hand had THIS to say on as your first response

OP can't admit he hates GGG but let's him live rent free in his head.

I wonder how many threads hell start today about GGG?

No one took a risk on GGG because the risk FAR outweighed the reward which fits the correct narrative that no one wanted GGG from 2012-2016. Anyone who was a champion or contender lost with ease.

Look at the champions of 2012

WBC Sergio
IBF/WBA Gaele
WBO Hassan/Quillin

Triangle theory doesnt always work but GGG himself KOed 2 of those guys. Cotto took out Sergio and Jacob's KOed Quillin.

GGG would have a very good chance against Sergio and that wasnt a risk Sergio wanted or was going to take.

GGG did better in common opposition getting rid of them faster and with greater ease.

Martinez got KD against lesser opposition and against guys with less power than GGG.

Now is it a duck? Does it quack?

^^Seems too me like you did say Martinez did duck Golovkin and then your turn around and say that you didn’t feel Martinez ducked Golovkin. Which one is it? Stop flip flopping man

[TonyGe]

Blah blah blah Golovkins puppy got ran over, he deserved more etc. IDG2 shets about the details I understand them but your pretending as if Cotto and Canelos decisions to make more money wasn’t justified. Why didn’t Loefflors statement for taking the fight later for more money also apply to what Canelo did 2 fights later after Khan? And watever your justification is Still dosnt changed the fact that he signed an agreement to fight DC and didn’t honor that and was stripped. Sounds like Cotto and Canelo to me, Cotto was afforded the opportunity to pay stepaside and Golovkin agreed to accept the money and after khan Canelo decided it made more financial sense to vacate. Why pay Golovkin the 40 percent WBC mandated split between silver and official Champ? That made zero sense to pay Golovkin so much. Waited 3 fights later and ended up negotiating that 40 percent down to 25 percent. The only thing that sticks out here “To me” is a negotiation that started with Golovkin saying 40 percent or nothing and Canelo saying I ain’t paying you 40 percent Fck off! Golovkin was in full control to accept a more reasonable offer right after Canelos optional defense vs Khan, and even when they decided to vacate the negotiations where ongoing and 2 fights later they settled on a more reasonable 25 percent for Golovkin. Any way you slice that Golovkin had equal incentives to accept the fight earlier but he chose to usurp another paper title instead. And I consider that a paper title in gggs hands cuz he did nothing to earn it. Nice trap btw and beginning to think your hi IQ has something to do with you being on drugs.

Here is what I posted prior to you going bananas..


Martinez made a business decision. it happens all the time. His manager was 100% opposed to putting him in the ring with Golovkin prior to the Cotto fight. Martinez was damaged goods around then and a fight with Cotto was looming.
I don't consider that a duck

[JohnCastellanos]

Here is what I posted prior to you going bananas..


Martinez made a business decision. it happens all the time. His manager was 100% opposed to putting him in the ring with Golovkin prior to the Cotto fight. Martinez was damaged goods around then and a fight with Cotto was looming.
I don't consider that a duck

I understand that and agree with you TonyGe. My response was meant for Right Hand South Paw who was in here lying, flip flopping and moving the goal post to try to make it seem like a was contradicting myself. I guess at some point I got you two mixed up on responses

[ruedboy]

Proof that the OP is a moron. None needed it goes without saying.

[daggum]

that wall of text hit me so hard im going to ignore this "Lou DiBella has no problem admitting that Gennady Golovkin is simply too dangerous for Sergio Martinez to face"

Jun 30, 2013

under zero circumstances!

[j0zef]

So called proof coming from you, the world's biggest GGG hater is the same as no proof at all. Martnnez ducked GGG and Cotto ducked him and anyone paying attention and reading boxing scene top headlines knows it. They both had a piece of the title and GGG tried to get a unification fight with Martinez and then with Cotto but neither of them wanted to fight GGG. That is the truth and all your ridiculous over the top hate for GGG won't change it. They were wise not to fight GGG because he would easily have KOed both of them. Martinez was KOed by Margarito and Cotto. Martinez had to get off the floor to win a home country decision over Murray in Argentina. Then two years later GGG won every round from Murray and knocked him out. GGG is a vastly superior middleweight than Martinez and Cotto. He tried to fight both of them and was DUCKED so here comes hater boy to try to rewrite history to suit his GGG hating agenda.

Woah woah, take it easy there buddy. This guy is nowhere near being top G hater. He's been posting completely idiotic hate threads with no facts for only year. Think about the legends of hate you're offending.
Larry, who now respects G, has had a meltdown thread after every G win since 2014. Shoulderroll has been twisting the truth for ~6 years, but at least he tries to be logical about it and sounds smart. UncleAlvarez has gotten banned like 3 times already and has been making multiple hate threads full of links and videos since I'd say at least 2016. Even aboutftime, who's likely the most ignored user on this forum, hasn't missed a chance to reply to every Golvokin-semi-related thread 3 times in a row, multiple times per thread, with underlines, bolds and links, for past 4 years!

So please, I ask you to think before you state garbage like that again.

[JohnCastellanos]

Proof that the OP is a moron. None needed it goes without saying.

Proof ? Show some or STFU!

[ruedboy]

Proof ? Show some or STFU!

None needed, can't you read?

[daggum]

Woah woah, take it easy there buddy. This guy is nowhere near being top G hater. He's been posting completely idiotic hate threads with no facts for only year. Think about the legends of hate you're offending.
Larry, who now respects G, has had a meltdown thread after every G win since 2014. Shoulderroll has been twisting the truth for ~6 years, but at least he tries to be logical about it and sounds smart. UncleAlvarez has gotten banned like 3 times already and has been making multiple hate threads full of links and videos since I'd say at least 2016. Even aboutftime, who's likely the most ignored user on this forum, hasn't missed a chance to reply to every Golvokin-semi-related thread 3 times in a row, multiple times per thread, with underlines, bolds and links, for past 4 years!

So please, I ask you to think before you state garbage like that again.

they were running with the ggg ducked ward thing for awhile until someone actually took the time to read what the offer was...then it was like oh ok yeah that was a fake offer. before they used to simply repeat what wards team said over and over "turned it down in 30 minutes!" they are so uncreative they literally just repeat what other people say even without doing any actual research. was it a legit offer or not? they never cared. they just wanted some confirmation bias to go on

[DreamFighter]

mrtinez took murray as his warm up style defence after surgery, he'd be a fool to face a good contender straight away.

once cotto, an elite name, came up, he was the obvious choice over ggg, noone of sergio's status picks an ibo/wbf titlist over a HoFer elite multiweight multititlist.