What if Wilder wins the third fight?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Squared.Circle
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Feb 2020
    • 1208
    • 88
    • 43
    • 31,803

    #41
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    all that AJ can do whatever talk is irrelevant because... AJ ducked Wilder TWICE in 2018

    who cares what happened after that, when it was clearly obvious they did not want that fight
    Team AJ are the only ones who have sent out actual offers. Whether you or they think they’re lowball offers, they’re still offers. Do you know how deals are made? Do you know how promoters who actually want fights operate? They do this thing, it’s actuallly quite common in the boxing world, “quite common” meaning everybody except team Wilder does it. Do you want me to let you in on the secret? Is the suspense killing you? Ok, I’ll tell ya...it’s called...NEGOTIATE. When one team refuses to negotiate in literally every instance...that means they don’t want to make the deal. You don’t need to be a genius to figure that out lol

    Name one instance team Wilder has attempted negotiations for a fight with AJ. Go on. Just one instance. Surely it can’t be that hard if AJ is the one ducking, right? It’s ok, I won’t wait, because you won’t be able to come back with one.

    You backed the wrong horse, pal. And now that horse is looking like what people have been saying for years...just a talentless one trick pony lol

    Comment

    • aboutfkntime
      Undisputed Champion
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Feb 2015
      • 47370
      • 1,631
      • 3,563
      • 391,308

      #42
      Originally posted by Squared.Circle
      Team AJ are the only ones who have sent out actual offers. Whether you or they think they’re lowball offers, they’re still offers. Do you know how deals are made? Do you know how promoters who actually want fights operate? They do this thing, it’s actuallly quite common in the boxing world, “quite common” meaning everybody except team Wilder does it. Do you want me to let you in on the secret? Is the suspense killing you? Ok, I’ll tell ya...it’s called...NEGOTIATE. When one team refuses to negotiate in literally every instance...that means they don’t want to make the deal. You don’t need to be a genius to figure that out lol

      Name one instance team Wilder has attempted negotiations for a fight with AJ. Go on. Just one instance. Surely it can’t be that hard if AJ is the one ducking, right? It’s ok, I won’t wait, because you won’t be able to come back with one.

      You backed the wrong horse, pal. And now that horse is looking like what people have been saying for years...just a talentless one trick pony lol



      stop talking garbage, we all remember what happened

      Joshua got offered $50m, and he still shat the bed

      also...

      There’s no doubt in my mind they don’t want to fight Deontay Wilder in April,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News. “If they did, they wouldn’t have sent a contract with more impediments in it than the first time.

      I mean, they don’t even have their own lies together right now. “Joshua said he’d send a signed contract that removed all impediments and that it would be signed by him, but the contract is not even signed by him – it’s signed by Eddie Hearn. Barry (Hearn) also sent a tweet out yesterday stating the contract was signed by ‘AJ’ but it’s not.

      And…added to that, they have now put more blocks on the rematch clause than before. “In the original contract for a fight in 2018, Deontay rejected it because of the rematch clause only being in place for Joshua. Now, they’ve added that a rematch won’t take place if it’s a draw. I mean, there has to be a rematch if there’s a draw, they don’t even have their own story straight!

      He continued: “The bottom line is, they don’t want to make the fight. They didn’t want to make it in September, and they don’t want to make it now – for April. If they did, they would have changed the things (Deontay was adverse to in the original contract) like Joshua said they would. “Obviously, whether Joshua is afraid…or they are afraid, they are fooling the public regarding this fight.

      They are not looking to fight Deontay Wilder on April 13th. “They are lying, they don’t want to fight April 13th or they wouldn’t have sent the contract the way they did. “The fact is, they sent a contract worse than before and left in the things Deontay wanted changed. They have no desire to fight on April 13 whatsoever and they keep telling the public lies. Asked whether this could be the final nail in the coffin for Joshua v Wilder, Finkel responded: “I’m just fed up discussing this bull**** with them because it’s one bull**** after another.

      “People who want to be his fans – that’s fine, but don’t believe the lies coming from the Joshua side surrounding these negotiations. “Deontay Wilder wants this fight and it’s not down to anything on his side that’s it’s not happening. “If however, terms are realistic in the future, we would be open to receiving the contract we were expecting and would be happy to look at it if those impediments were removed – as previously stated by Joshua himself, he added.

      Comment

      • aboutfkntime
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Feb 2015
        • 47370
        • 1,631
        • 3,563
        • 391,308

        #43
        Originally posted by Squared.Circle
        You backed the wrong horse, pal.


        Tyson Fury is my guy... and no, AJ cannot beat him either

        Comment

        • Ca$ual Fan
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Mar 2019
          • 2063
          • 51
          • 10
          • 41,406

          #44
          Originally posted by 4truth
          If Wilder manages to catch Fury with a bolt from the blue he should take a tip from JMM and refuse any more rematches. Take that victory and hold it over Fury’s head forever, cause it probably wouldn’t happen again.
          Lol exactly. In that way, they can put up a story that Wilder is 2-0 against Fury since Wilder won 1st, 2nd was a no contest cause Fury fought ‘dirty’ and the 3rd counts since Wilder wins clean (assuming it’s a KO since it’s the only way he wins)

          Comment

          • Squared.Circle
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Feb 2020
            • 1208
            • 88
            • 43
            • 31,803

            #45
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            stop talking garbage, we all remember what happened

            Joshua got offered $50m, and he still shat the bed

            also...

            There’s no doubt in my mind they don’t want to fight Deontay Wilder in April,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News. “If they did, they wouldn’t have sent a contract with more impediments in it than the first time.

            I mean, they don’t even have their own lies together right now. “Joshua said he’d send a signed contract that removed all impediments and that it would be signed by him, but the contract is not even signed by him – it’s signed by Eddie Hearn. Barry (Hearn) also sent a tweet out yesterday stating the contract was signed by ‘AJ’ but it’s not.

            And…added to that, they have now put more blocks on the rematch clause than before. “In the original contract for a fight in 2018, Deontay rejected it because of the rematch clause only being in place for Joshua. Now, they’ve added that a rematch won’t take place if it’s a draw. I mean, there has to be a rematch if there’s a draw, they don’t even have their own story straight!

            He continued: “The bottom line is, they don’t want to make the fight. They didn’t want to make it in September, and they don’t want to make it now – for April. If they did, they would have changed the things (Deontay was adverse to in the original contract) like Joshua said they would. “Obviously, whether Joshua is afraid…or they are afraid, they are fooling the public regarding this fight.

            They are not looking to fight Deontay Wilder on April 13th. “They are lying, they don’t want to fight April 13th or they wouldn’t have sent the contract the way they did. “The fact is, they sent a contract worse than before and left in the things Deontay wanted changed. They have no desire to fight on April 13 whatsoever and they keep telling the public lies. Asked whether this could be the final nail in the coffin for Joshua v Wilder, Finkel responded: “I’m just fed up discussing this bull**** with them because it’s one bull**** after another.

            “People who want to be his fans – that’s fine, but don’t believe the lies coming from the Joshua side surrounding these negotiations. “Deontay Wilder wants this fight and it’s not down to anything on his side that’s it’s not happening. “If however, terms are realistic in the future, we would be open to receiving the contract we were expecting and would be happy to look at it if those impediments were removed – as previously stated by Joshua himself, he added.
            Contracts being signed by a promoter is actually a common practice. Dead point.

            Finkle likes to say things like “there were many reasons” but only ever comes up with one or two, like in this case. They say the two roadblocks were the rematch clause not being implemented in the case of a draw, and there being no date or venue. Fast forward a little bit...Wilder signs a contract with Fury that includes a two way rematch clause, none in the case of a draw, and no date or venue

            Negotiating isn’t a case of, “send me a contract and we’ll see...I don’t like this part, no deal”...and taking an entire week to respond between each refusal. Don’t forget, with the final contract, Finkle was on video saying to the media (not actually to Hearn)...”I’ve received the contract, I’ll get back to Eddie with my comments on Friday”, that was on a Monday! That is not negotiating, that is blatant stalling tactics. Also, Negotiating happens before a contract is drafted, during an actual conversation. Not through emails spaced a week apart. We all know Finkle’s style of negotiating; “here’s a term sheet that says there’s $50m, there’s a rematch clause and the second fight will take place in the UK. I will not accept your phone calls, I won’t reply to your emails and we’re not having a meeting to discuss the finer points. Accept within a certain timeframe or the offer is gone”...or...”thanks for the offer of $100m...but what is AJ making? Ok no deal bye”

            I’ll ask again...show me one single instance of Wilder’s team actually entering negotiations. What you just quoted is Finkle contradicting himself and proving they never wanted the fight. If you want a fight...you push for it. You don’t restrict communication to ridiculously delayed emails only.

            Hearn is a good liar, it’s no wonder a lot of his bullshít is listened to. Finkle is a terrible liar; he says one thing in one interview, something else in another, then his actions completely contradict his words the following week. Logic, common sense and Finkle’s own contradictions say the Wilder puppeteers ducked the fight on multiple occasions.

            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            Tyson Fury is my guy... and no, AJ cannot beat him either
            Yea he’s your guy now he embarrassed Wilder on two occasions lol bet you’re one of those former Wildettes that were saying Fury is a fat coke head with pillows for fists...now it’s “Fury is the best heavyweight in the world, I’ve been riding for The Gypsy King since day dot”

            Comment

            • Canelo and GGG
              NSB's Golden Boy
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Sep 2016
              • 4582
              • 106
              • 92
              • 15,725

              #46
              If Wilder catch Fury with one punch while loseing wide on cards it will set HW devision back for a while ,but if Wilder wins convincingly ,4th fight will be welcomed. I would rather see Fury win and fight AJ then ,but there still is WBC mado waiting for a winner.
              Last edited by Canelo and GGG; 05-11-2020, 09:28 AM.

              Comment

              • aboutfkntime
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Feb 2015
                • 47370
                • 1,631
                • 3,563
                • 391,308

                #47
                Originally posted by Squared.Circle
                Contracts being signed by a promoter is actually a common practice. Dead point.

                Finkle likes to say things like “there were many reasons” but only ever comes up with one or two, like in this case. They say the two roadblocks were the rematch clause not being implemented in the case of a draw, and there being no date or venue. Fast forward a little bit...Wilder signs a contract with Fury that includes a two way rematch clause, none in the case of a draw, and no date or venue

                Negotiating isn’t a case of, “send me a contract and we’ll see...I don’t like this part, no deal”...and taking an entire week to respond between each refusal. Don’t forget, with the final contract, Finkle was on video saying to the media (not actually to Hearn)...”I’ve received the contract, I’ll get back to Eddie with my comments on Friday”, that was on a Monday! That is not negotiating, that is blatant stalling tactics. Also, Negotiating happens before a contract is drafted, during an actual conversation. Not through emails spaced a week apart. We all know Finkle’s style of negotiating; “here’s a term sheet that says there’s $50m, there’s a rematch clause and the second fight will take place in the UK. I will not accept your phone calls, I won’t reply to your emails and we’re not having a meeting to discuss the finer points. Accept within a certain timeframe or the offer is gone”...or...”thanks for the offer of $100m...but what is AJ making? Ok no deal bye”

                I’ll ask again...show me one single instance of Wilder’s team actually entering negotiations. What you just quoted is Finkle contradicting himself and proving they never wanted the fight. If you want a fight...you push for it. You don’t restrict communication to ridiculously delayed emails only.

                Hearn is a good liar, it’s no wonder a lot of his bullshít is listened to. Finkle is a terrible liar; he says one thing in one interview, something else in another, then his actions completely contradict his words the following week. Logic, common sense and Finkle’s own contradictions say the Wilder puppeteers ducked the fight on multiple occasions.

                yea he’s your guy now he embarrassed Wilder on two occasions lol bet you’re one of those former Wildettes that were saying Fury is a fat coke head with pillows for fists...now it’s “Fury is the best heavyweight in the world, I’ve been riding for The Gypsy King since day dot”



                kid, AJ insisted that he removed the impediments, and signed the contract

                but... he did not sign the contract, and he included more impediments that made no sense at all

                they low-balled Wilder $15m... AND THEN SHAT THE BED loooool

                seriously, how fkn dumb are they for letting Wilder get away when they had him on the hook for $15m?

                you guys love talking about hundreds of millions, but Team Bullshlt would not fight Wilder when they got him for $15m... that tells the WHOLE story right there... AJ spent 18 months lying to his idiot fanbase... which yea, is you LMAO

                Comment

                • Smash
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 16338
                  • 6,600
                  • 7,978
                  • 21,172

                  #48
                  that would be a shock of wilder wins but if it happens would we go back to the crap between the 2 camps, i zoned out years ago when i saw that hearn and joshua were offering wilder a flat crap rate fee for the figtht, i mena come on, U DO NOT offer a flat fee for this level of fight, when i heard that iknew the fight was doomed, thats the truth

                  Comment

                  • Tyistall
                    Banned
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1872
                    • 97
                    • 0
                    • 48,057

                    #49
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    cars started talking way back in the 80s...see knight rider....and most of them do talk now if you arent poor...you should try not being poor

                    alot of things talk...portable telephones...they even have these speakers you can put in a corner of a room that will play music on request and even answer questions if you ask it...
                    Whaaaat?!?!?? Wilder fans have started crawling back out of the woodwork now? i thought you idiots were done for the year. i guess since your idol hasn't made another ridiculous excuse this week, you all figure you can start talking again. Wow

                    Comment

                    • QueensburyRules
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • May 2018
                      • 22582
                      • 2,476
                      • 18
                      • 187,708

                      #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      All hell would break lose.

                      Will there be demand for a fourth? Does Wilder try to negotiate with AJ? Does the WBC finally issue an order for Dianabol Shyte to get a title shot?
                      - -What if U wake up covered in faery dust?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP