Why doesn't Manny cherry pick at this point?

[hugh grant]

you are tripping

Barrera had slipped, and was coming off a loss... Kellerman said that Marquez beat Pacquiao in the 1st and 2nd fight, and yet Mayweather SCHOOLED Marquez 12-0... Bradley and Thurman don't even count, Mayweather beat HEAPS of fighters who are better than those guys

there is nothing on Manny's resume as good as Mayweather's EASY wins over Canelo 10-2, Marquez 12-0, and Pacquiao

Mayweather beat about 20 current/former world champions CONSECUTIVELY

and Mayweather has no horrific knockout losses

game over for Pac

No matter how you twist logic and history you know Floyd is more famous for what he didn't do. And if he took those risks people wanted him to he would have more losses and ko losses than he has.to
He's not tip tapping his way to victory like he did Pac in Philippines, mexico, or even horn in australia.
And his wins over nel o and pac aren't great wins where were rematches over biggest rivals? We know Floyd likes rematches when people thinks he lost. But people knew you'd mention him as Floyd s resume thin on ground. Notice Pac fans don't need to mention Pac s win over cott o as it was a cw?

[aboutfkntime]

No matter how you twist logic and history you know Floyd is more famous for what he didn't do. And if he took those risks people wanted him to he would have more losses and ko losses than he has.to
He's not tip tapping his way to victory like he did Pac in Philippines, mexico, or even horn in australia.
And his wins over nel o and pac aren't great wins where were rematches over biggest rivals? We know Floyd likes rematches when people thinks he lost. But people knew you'd mention him as Floyd s resume thin on ground. Notice Pac fans don't need to mention Pac s win over cott o as it was a cw?

I would go easy if I was you... as soon as you start removing weight-affected fights, Pac has very little to compare to Mayweather

Mayweather did not need to rematch Marquez, or Pacquiao

and he would not have needed to rematch Morales either

1) better top wins than Pacquiao
2) better body of work than Pacquiao
3) no horrific knockout losses, unlike Pacquiao

3-0 Mayweather

Mayweather is top 15'ish, maybe a little higher... Pac is top 25'ish, maybe a little higher

[hugh grant]

I would go easy if I was you... as soon as you start removing weight-affected fights, Pac has very little to compare to Mayweather

Mayweather did not need to rematch Marquez, or Pacquiao

and he would not have needed to rematch Morales either

1) better top wins than Pacquiao
2) better body of work than Pacquiao
3) no horrific knockout losses, unlike Pacquiao

3-0 Mayweather

Mayweather is top 15'ish, maybe a little higher... Pac is top 25'ish, maybe a little higher

It's always been accepted Pac has better wins than floyd and all of a sudden when Floyd beat pac and nelo, Floyd fans like parrots think if they say it often enough people will believe it that Floyd s wins has now all of a sudden surpassed pac s body of work?

Pac s CW fights were in 7th and 8th divisions. Floyd s were in 5th division in a time when there are 4 belts or more? It's supposed to be easier to be multiple weight champ nowadays compared to Armstrong so how come Floyd only 5 division champ with CW in 5th duvision?

With Floyd too many unanswered questions. Boxing fans can't put someone who wanted to be mysterious on a pedestal. No fighting abroad? No rematches?

[aboutfkntime]

It's always been accepted Pac has better wins than floyd and all of a sudden when Floyd beat pac and nelo, Floyd fans like parrots think if they say it often enough people will believe it that Floyd s wins has now all of a sudden surpassed pac s body of work?

Pac s CW fights were in 7th and 8th divisions. Floyd s were in 5th division in a time when there are 4 belts or more? It's supposed to be easier to be multiple weight champ nowadays compared to Armstrong so how come Floyd only 5 division champ with CW in 5th duvision!
With Floyd too many unanswered questions. Boxing fans can't put someone who wanted to be mysterious on a pedestal. No fighting abroad?. No rematches?

no Hugh, that has never been accepted... you completely made that shlt up LMAO

FACT: Mayweather has better wins than Pacquiao... which is the ONLY criteria

the conversation ends here... there is nothing else to discuss

but wait, there is more...

FACT: Mayweather has a better body-of-work

now this conversation is buried... it no longer exists

but wait, there is more...

FACT: Mayweather had no horrific knockout losses, or any losses at all

now this conversation is just a lame joke... a thing of the past... sillyness that could - and will - simply be forgotten

it is not... even... close...

[hugh grant]

Pac s wins are better and it's not arguable as everything he does is as a former flyweight. And his longevity surpasses not only Floyd but anyone in history in his weight, who started in his weight.
Use a little perspective it will take you far.

[Jim Tom]

We all know whoever gets the call to fight Manny is boxing's way of winning the jackpot. In the sweepstakes there were more inferior fighters, Thurman 2 Mikey g Danny g but dang Manny has to call out the best in the division! Pound for pound bud is the number 1 guy. For those who exclaim that Pacquiao doesn't have large heoves is dead wrong!

Your thoughts?

Unless you are blind or started watching boxing last night you should know Manny cherry picks Just like any other fighter, this is prize fighting and a business. He was given Crawford before he left Top Rank but he turned him down. When he got beat by Horn he turned down a rematch. He went for Thurman because Thurman hasn’t looked good For a long time Because of his many injuries but he could have fought Crawford or Spence. Even stylistically Manny prefers stationary or come forward targets because mobile targets make him look bad. Don’t get me wrong, he is a good fighter and will go down in history as one of the great fighters of this generation but he cherry picks like any other fighter. Money is number one, whether it enhances or diminishes his legacy and the risk in the fight. A risky fight has to be well compensated for and sometimes there’s not enough money in the pot.

[Jim Tom]

Pac s wins are better and it's not arguable as everything he does is as a former flyweight. And his longevity surpasses not only Floyd but anyone in history in his weight, who started in his weight.
Use a little perspective it will take you far.

You have to understand that Manny is younger than Floyd and he didn’t have as big an amateur career as Floyd Mayweather. Manny had 60-4 while Floyd 84-8 but still Manny is a phenomenal fighter. He took way too much punishment against some big guys like Margarito. I still worry about Manny and hope he won’t have health problems when he retires.

[GrandpaBernard]

Unless you are blind or started watching boxing last night you should know Manny cherry picks Just like any other fighter, this is prize fighting and a business. He was given Crawford before he left Top Rank but he turned him down. When he got beat by Horn he turned down a rematch. He went for Thurman because Thurman hasn’t looked good For a long time Because of his many injuries but he could have fought Crawford or Spence. Even stylistically Manny prefers stationary or come forward targets because mobile targets make him look bad. Don’t get me wrong, he is a good fighter and will go down in history as one of the great fighters of this generation but he cherry picks like any other fighter. Money is number one, whether it enhances or diminishes his legacy and the risk in the fight. A risky fight has to be well compensated for and sometimes there’s not enough money in the pot.

bingo

Boxers use matchmaking to have an easy fight between their big or tough matches

This gives makes for a longer career and allows them to get paid well

[sargo]

Pacquiao AMAZES audiences. Did it as an unknown when he beat up P4P ranked Ledwaba, did it as an underdog against Barrera and Dela Hoya. Crushed Hatton. Destroyed Cotto that drove Mayweather crazy and accused him of PEDs. Beat up the MUCH BIGGER Margarito. Amazed again recently beating undefeated, young champion Thurman in spectacular fashion at 40 years old - now oldest welterweight champion, only champion in 4 decades.

[Left Hook Tua]

Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:

1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao

After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....

Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.

Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.