Mike vs Wlad: Title reign breakdown

[Marchegiano]

But I have to respect Wlad more for his constancy and dedication to the sport and in life in general

What I get from this is Wlad's got no resume based argument against Tyson but you like him more anyway. I apologize if that's not what you mean.

[Marchegiano]

I'd give the Peter that Wlad beat a tremendous advantage over the Tucker Mike beat.

I didn't ask you to restate your stance, I asked you why you feel that way.

[BodyBagz]

I didn't ask you to restate your stance, I asked you why you feel that way.

You replied too quickly

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I figured I'd just let timing go to juxtaposition because if I caveated timing it'd look like I'm taking away Wlad's only good names.

I mean consider Holy, Briggs, and Lennox for a second. Anyone in the know, knows, those men who beat Holy, Briggs, and Lewis to add them to Wlad's resume's resume were not actually better than the men they beat. Sultan brings in Holy and Briggs....in like 07. Rahman brings in Lennox and Berbick..berbick in 96 and Lennox, well, fair enough I guess but you know Lennox deserves a caveat. Ruiz appears a few times as an old man, Haye has no champion wins over champions who are not literally on their final fight. Pov could be argued out of Chagaev and definitely did not fight a prime Rahman.

I think it kinda buries Wlad and does little to change Tyson. Numbers yes, but, Tyson's guys still beat guys who were champions and Wlad's guys didn't. Once you bring timing into it, Tyson's guys beat some champions in their prime, Wlad and his opposition hardly ever did.

There's quite a bit still left up to the reader, I'll make it more complete in a while I guess. I could denote lineals.


I realize you asked about direct opposition, but, if I point out Larry was old when Tyson beat him don't I then have to point out Rahman was old when Wlad fought him and Berbick was old when Rahman fought him? Transitively anyway.


coulda just did that **** rather than typing all this babble

Anyway, that was why I hadn't, I'll spiff it up later.

Yeah that’s fair enough. I do think whichever way you analyse it, Tyson’s resume will always come out on top. The only thing Wlad really has is longevity. His resume lacks depth and quality.

I think Wlad was unlucky that the only natural rival he had shared the same bloodline. The guys who were supposed be challenges like Haye turned out to be frauds in reality. You could probably make a fair case Chris Byrd remains the best win of his career.