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  • VatoMulatto
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    #81
    Originally posted by Cool Scant
    Yep. But at least Fury had the cojones to expose Klitschko when wlad was at the top his game. Nobody knew Klitschko was shot until fury beat him. Meanwhile AJ waited until it was confirmed Klitschko was shot 2 calendar years older and when 18 months without a tuneup.
    Point is if Wlad was an old shot fighter you shouldn't give Fury that much credit. The main focus when talking about that fight should be Wlad's age and past his prime that you like to bring up to discredit AJ's win.

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    • Oshio
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      #82
      It's about staying humble in victory and in defeat. I like Joshua. He's the liquid metal of HW. His character is needed to sell the sport especially to young fans

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        #83
        Originally posted by Ant1979
        Hahaha hit the nail on the head. Still, could be a lot worse, could be a 'King' he turns into...
        I do get your point and I think he needs to tone down some of those quotes because some of them are always out of place. And he's in a business where people aren't trying to listen to quotes. It's a masculine sport that celebrates toxic masculinity in its highest form and how physically superior men through pain. So fans expect you to be arrogant/braggadocious with a lot of trash talking. It's not a gentleman's sport. Evidently, when you're being too much of a gentleman - you'd be seen as a bore.

        I think his image is the reason why he gets pick on by everyone, even Dave Allen. But in the bigger scheme of things - he has made ****load of money through the image. But personally, from what I know, apart from being a very funny guy around people (although underneath that, he could be very mean when he's angry) - he has changed a lot since the Wlad fight.

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        • jbpanama
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          #84
          Originally posted by 5000boxing
          True, true.. But sometimes a lost can light that fire! Or it can extinguish it.. Right? My opinion is.. I think Fury has lit the fire inside of Wilder.. An will pay the consequences for it in the Trilogy!
          We'll see..., but Skills Pay Bills and

          Wilder is a One Trick Pony devoid of Fundamentals...

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            #85
            Originally posted by Cool Scant
            AJ fought Klitschko when he was 41 years old coming off a lost to Fury where he looked old shot and couldn’t throw a punch and a 18 month layoff without a tuneup. Totally different circumstances than Fury.

            Based on Joshua history he wouldn’t have fought Klitschko while Wlad was on a run. AJ doesn’t fight anyone with positive momentum
            AJ is not a Lock against Any of Heavy-Handed Heavy's

            The Pulev cat there lining him up might save him from

            the Whipping The Gypsy King would put on Him...

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            • Cool Scant
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              #86
              Originally posted by VatoMulatto
              Point is if Wlad was an old shot fighter you shouldn't give Fury that much credit. The main focus when talking about that fight should be Wlad's age and past his prime that you like to bring up to discredit AJ's win.
              Point is Fury didn’t know that Klitschko was gone. He took a risk and fought Klitschko while he was on an historic title reign. Meanwhile Joshua the opportunist fought Klitschko after Fury confirmed it was safe to do so.

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              • VatoMulatto
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                #87
                Originally posted by Cool Scant
                Point is Fury didn’t know that Klitschko was gone. He took a risk and fought Klitschko while he was on an historic title reign. Meanwhile Joshua the opportunist fought Klitschko after Fury confirmed it was safe to do so.
                But he was gone so he did beat an old past his prime Wlad. Fury was the mandatory number one contender. Fury had been a pro for almost ten years and had 24 fights under his belt. Fury was next in line and was supposed to be ready.

                Why on earth would AJ fight Wlad at that time? AJ had been pro for two years and was 13-0 when Fury took on Wlad. Of course he needed a few more fights before taking on someone like Wlad. It's not like Fury fought a bunch of killers when he was 13,14,15-0.

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                • Cool Scant
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by VatoMulatto
                  But he was gone so he did beat an old past his prime Wlad. Fury was the mandatory number one contender. Fury had been a pro for almost ten years and had 24 fights under his belt. Fury was next in line and was supposed to be ready.

                  Why on earth would AJ fight Wlad at that time? AJ had been pro for two years and was 13-0 when Fury took on Wlad. Of course he needed a few more fights before taking on someone like Wlad. It's not like Fury fought a bunch of killers when he was 13,14,15-0.
                  actually I thought AJ was 15-0 when Fury fought Klitschko. If AJ wasn’t ready to fight Klitschko at 15-0 how did he get ready In his 16th fight when it was time to fight Charles Martin for the IBF championship? Because he knew Martin was a bum and not a risk. I’m not knocking AJ but his fans really need to stop acting like he is this big risk taker when he’s taking the right fights at the right time like everyone else.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by jbpanama
                    We'll see..., but Skills Pay Bills and

                    Wilder is a One Trick Pony devoid of Fundamentals...
                    We don't know that.. The longer the fight takes to be made.. The more weapons Wilder can add to his arsenal.. True? Or do u think he is incapable of learning.. That was the best Wilder.. An Wilder is not at all humiliated by that lost, and is not desperate to destroy fury in this trilogy? Come on man.. Giving all this extended rest from the sport due to corona? Do you think he's still just thinking.. I just need to be perfect for 2 seconds? You know what I think.. I think he is humbled.. An ready to make some serious changes! To open up a whole new Arsenal on Fury.. And those changes will make him the most dangerous heavyweight in the world. No one will be willing to deny him his glory after this devastating, brutal beatdown Fury will receive! Amen.

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                    • jbpanama
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by 5000boxing
                      We don't know that.. The longer the fight takes to be made.. The more weapons Wilder can add to his arsenal.. True? Or do u think he is incapable of learning.. That was the best Wilder.. An Wilder is not at all humiliated by that lost, and is not desperate to destroy fury in this trilogy? Come on man.. Giving all this extended rest from the sport due to corona? Do you think he's still just thinking.. I just need to be perfect for 2 seconds? You know what I think.. I think he is humbled.. An ready to make some serious changes! To open up a whole new Arsenal on Fury.. And those changes will make him the most dangerous heavyweight in the world. No one will be willing to deny him his glory after this devastating, brutal beatdown Fury will receive! Amen.
                      I hope you're right...,

                      but I think Fury has too much Game for The Bomber...

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