Minimumweight-Flyweight Roman Gonzalez vs Ricardo Lopez

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  • Thraxox
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    Minimumweight-Flyweight Roman Gonzalez vs Ricardo Lopez

    One of the few all time greats in this era is Roman Gonzalez. But who wins between Gonzalez vs Lopez.
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    Lopez, better all around skills, just as powerful and the naturally bigger man. He had Beristain in the corner too
    Last edited by just the facts; 05-02-2020, 11:30 PM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by just the facts
      Lopez, better all around skills, just as powerful and the naturally bigger man. He had Beristain in the corner too
      Roman is actually the naturally bigger fightee.

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        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Roman is actually the naturally bigger fightee.
        Not true. Lopez two inches taller with a longer reach.

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          #5
          Originally posted by just the facts
          Not true. Lopez two inches taller with a longer reach.
          Height and reach matters little. Mass and the distribution of weight to body ratio is everything. Lopez might be taller, but he is a lot more slender compared to the stockier Gonzalez. Just liken Rungvisai and Gonzalez being similar in dimentions but when close together, Rungvisai is much bigger.

          That is why Lopez never went to higher weights.

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            Originally posted by Thraxox
            Height and reach matters little. Mass and the distribution of weight to body ratio is everything. Lopez might be taller, but he is a lot more slender compared to the stockier Gonzalez. Just liken Rungvisai and Gonzalez being similar in dimentions but when close together, Rungvisai is much bigger.

            That is why Lopez never went to higher weights.
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              Man this would be one hell of a match up. These two stack up quite evenly . I feel like lopez had faster feet but Gonzalez SLIGHTLY better footwork( more consistent) . Gonzalez is the bigger man and that density would help wear lopez down . I mean lopez is taller and longer but doesn't fight long for whole fights , and takes away from his reach when he does as he had a very wide stance. Lopez had better head movement . Man this is a pick em fight if I've ever seen one . I would have to lean towards chocolatito in a great fight. He's a little more consistent ( feet and range )/ less frantic , I think his ring generalship would be the difference imo . ALSO I've seen more from gonzalez against bigger proven great fighters , he just simply fought a bit better competition so I have more to gauge him by


              I mean lopez was fast on his feet and had some great pivots which would counteract chocos ring generalship nicely but I think he would get trapped at times . I would have to pick Roman via decision . A very competitive one . Lopez would have to fight behind the jab more than he's used to and he usually didn't take that route ( lopez was usually mid range / slippery as a fish ) . Again it comes down to that consistency of Gonzales with his ring generalship . His feet are almost always where they need to be . And for that reason I think he could edge lopez to the body slightly which would also be huge and help take away those fast feet of Ricardos , but that being said it would leave chocolatito there for lopezs top notch counterpunching .

              What a fight !!! Gonzalez via razor thin / close /competitive decision . Ask me in a week i may pick lopez . But I think roman positions himself perfectly for lopez style and for that reason would be able to go tit for tat to the body and stay close enuff to smother lopez counterpunching to an extent . Lopez needed a bit more room to work .
              Last edited by NORMNEALON; 05-03-2020, 04:09 AM.

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                Imagine that fight wow!!!

                A true lower weight super fight right there but Lopez was pretty much flawless he stops Roman late in the fight.

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                  I dont know, but, here are some notable details to consider:

                  A 24 year old Ricardo Lopez beat Hideyuki Ohashi by KO for the lineal and WBC straw-weight championships in 1990. Hideyuki Ohashi is Naoya Inoue's manager by the way.

                  A 21 year old, Roman Gonzalez beat the RINGS #1. Straw-weight Yutaka Niida for the WBA 105 title by KO in 2008. Gonzalez had 20 pro bouts, Lopez had 26 pro fights.

                  In line with OP's criteria of a prime Roman Gonzalez from 105-108, I calculate that this is more or less a four year period. Consequently, I reviewed Ricardo Lopez resume accordingly, from the time he became lineal champ ( 1990 ) until 1994. Below are the results highlighting said fighters best wins under the established method of measurement.

                  Ricardo Lopez wins :

                  Hideyuki Ohashi - two time WBA-WBC miniweight champ.
                  Saman Sorjaturong - WBC-IBF Light-flyweight titles.
                  Manny Melchor - IBF miniweight champ.

                  Roman Gonzalez wins :

                  Yutaka Niida - WBA miniweight champ.
                  Katsunari Takayama - first Japanese boxer to hold all four of the major sanctioning bodies titles ( IBF-WBA-WBC-WBO ).
                  Ramon Garcia Hirales - WBO Light Flyweight Champion
                  Juan Francisco Estrada - two weight champion, unified WBA-WBO Flyweight champion, WBC and lineal Superfly champ.

                  Both Lopez and Gonzalez arguably best victories during this four year period came against men that were destined to reach their prime/peak at the higher weights : Saman Sorjaturong went on to beat 'Chiquita' Humberto Gonzalez for the IBF-WBC light-flyweight titles in the 1995 FOTY, and retired the HOF.

                  Roman Gonzalez has a victory over Juan Fransico Estrada, we know what Estrada has gone to achieve and is likely entering the HOF.

                  I dont know how to finish this post, I'm tired. Sorry If I missed anything. Maybe this helps you guys.
                  Last edited by 1hourRun; 05-03-2020, 05:38 AM.

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                  • Chrismart
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                    I'd go with Gonzalez. That's a nice fantasy match-up

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