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Originally posted by JTfloyd View PostI love how some people are STILL trying to blame Floyd for the fight not happening in 2010, knowing damn well that Manny claimed to be "scared of needles" in those days. Yeah, the Pacquiao who already had a few tattoos by then, claimed to be afraid of needles, and "weakened" by blood tests.
Fact of the matter is, not only did he end up taking those very same tests in 2015, but got the back end of a 60/40 split, as opposed to the 50/50 he'd have gotten in 2010, before getting iced by JMM, and looking terrible against Bradley. As others have mentioned, Floyd would've dissected him in March 2010 even worse than he eventually did in 2015. There's a reason why Arum and team Pac were making so many excuses around that time period, to NOT fight Mayweather.
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Originally posted by Gigantes View Postgreen k for you if you can show proof manny said he was "afraid of needles", I can wait.
It is official Manny Pacquiao does not want to fight Floyd Mayweather Junior. The whole blood testing debacle put the thought into my head but hey if he doesn’t want to do it then he doesn’t have to. He didn’t take the fight and moved on to Joshua Clottey.
Disappointing that he couldn’t get a deal done with Mayweather but it is what it is and we actually got a good fight in Mayweather against Mosley.
I digress though, after seeing Pacquiao sit in a doctor's office and get blood taken(http://www.gmanews.tv/video/55729/pa...al-examination ), there is no reason for him to not be fighting Mayweather.
He said testing was going to be to close to the fight and that he was afraid of needles. There is nothing in that video that would point to the fact that he is afraid of needles. In fact he looked very comfortable giving blood. He also stated that Mayweather was asking for the blood to be taken to close to the fight.
His fight with Clottey happens in 18 days and never once did he complain about giving blood for this fight.
Mayweather proposed a 14 day no testing window before the fight. Four days is the difference in this proposal and the blood testing that Pacquiao complied with for the Clottey fight.
I am not a world champion boxer and never will be, but is four days a reason to blow the biggest fight in boxing?
Freddie Roach said he would allow Pacquiao to take blood testing a week before the fight. Pacquiao nixed that idea.
The thing that strikes me the most is that Pacquiao still talks about had badly he wants Mayweather and how he wants to shut him up. The chance to shut up Mayweather was at the tip of his fingers but he didn’t seal the deal.
Without question he took the easy way out and took a fight with the tough, durable Clottey but someone who is limited. Clottey can’t outbox Pacquiao, he can’t out power him, and he can’t out speed him. On top of all of that his defense isn’t exactly the best around.
Mayweather can outbox and out speed Pac-man. He is also the best defensive fighter of this generation. Pacquiao hasn’t faced a boxer this good ever.
Love him or hate him Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best pure boxer of this generation. He is as slick as they come and Pacquiao hasn’t faced a fighter like him since Juan Manuel Marquez in 2008 and we know how that turned out.
He has faced straight ahead come at you guys since then and has looked like the greatest of all time. Clottey has come out and said “I plan to go right at him. There’s no way he’s chasing me around the ring.” This is exactly what Pacquiao and Roach want. They know this will keep the hype train rolling and people will continue to praise him.
Pacquiao isn’t afraid to get into the ring with Mayweather but he doesn’t want to. He knows the challenge that Mayweather is.
FACT: Pac could have simply taken the harmless blood test... 1) like everyone else did... 2) like Pacquiao agreed to eventually
FACT: when Pac finally agreed to drug testing... the EIGHT ridiculous they blurted out to kill the fight in 2010, were never even mentioned... NOT ONCE!! LMAO
why do YOU think Pacquiao killed a super-fight by refusing random blood tests?
which one of those EIGHT ridiculous excuses did you believe?
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Wasn’t this the fight Floyd delayed for six long years by baselessly accusing Manny of cheating and when they finally fought it was him that refused the best drug testing (VADA) and then was caught using a WADA banned PED masking IV the night before the fight?
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Originally posted by santosonly7 View PostWasn’t this the fight Floyd delayed for six long years by baselessly accusing Manny of cheating and when they finally fought it was him that refused the best drug testing (VADA) and then was caught using a WADA banned PED masking IV the night before the fight?
nah, it is the fight where Pac could have simply...
1) taken the harmless blood tests
2) proved that he was clean
3) kicked Mayweathers ass
... but he CHOSE not to !! LMAO
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postnah, it is the fight where Pac could have simply...
1) taken the harmless blood tests
2) proved that he was clean
3) kicked Mayweathers ass
... but he CHOSE not to !! LMAO
Floyd should have ignored ssm and pac and stepped up to 160 for a challenge as by the time he got pac he's fighting a war ravaged, war torn 70 fight former flyweight
Floyds legacy has suffered like gggs.
Floyd should have been more flexible in his career like water. Bruce Lee's jkd if you come across obstacle you have to bend around and work around it. Whether that was Bruce's martial arts or his film career. Hollywood wouldn't accept him so he became star in Hong Kong first then came back to hollywood.
It was floyds legacy on the line afterall, he's the only one who's going to suffer at end of day. Pac didn't need floyd to make his career that's the difference.Last edited by hugh grant; 05-05-2020, 04:08 AM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostOk. I'm getting what you are saying now. Pac s so great and the Standards are so high that he should have fought Ggg at middleweight and be a 9 weight champ. He could have did it I guess but weren't that ambitious. But I don't think Pac wanted to do it as he has a long career ahead of him. He might not be beating the young lions Floyd ducked like thurman now if hed stepped up to beat ggg 5 years ago. Might have taken too much out of pac.
Don't you get it yet, the kid who thinks he's cleverer than me, and I'm not claiming I'm smart btw?. People ask Floyd to fight so and so because that's who they think Floyd needs to beat to be considered as great as pac. To have achieved as much as Pac pfp.
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Floyd just ducked Ggg though and sergio in most opinions simply because he didn't want to be considered as great as Pac is. Floyd said he could beat them.
Floyd was dishonest, claiming he can do things he cant. Like ggg got ripped for making claims he didn't back up.
But your such a fanboy you don't acknowledge anything. Why cannot you allow people call Floyd out on things fanboy?
And before you respond don't ask why people don't ask Pac to do what people ask Floyd to do again. You claim your clever? Floyd s got to do more to be as be as great as pac. Floyd s got to rematch nelo, he needed to beat ggg at 160, he needed to beat young lions in thurman, spence etc. Don't ask the guy who's already greater than floyd to do it, it don't work like that
Let that be final thought!
If Floyd ducked GGG and Martinez, then so did Pac as they were in the same weight class at the time.
Floyd was already retired but you're asking him to come out of retirement and fight the young class coming through.
Bullshit Mr Han Man. You're an idiot of the extreme order.
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