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Lineal is opinion and DaNatrual is more than with in reason to stick to official ranking and official accolade.
I do recognize Tyson on the grounds that others have had weaker claims that are recognized without question.
For example, 1 vs 2 for a vacant lineal fight. What's the history for that? Ring made up bull**** actually. Lineal has no ranks, lineal has no 1 or 2. 1 and 2 come from a thing that flies in the face of lineal. That is sanction body culture being pulled into lineal by media and fans who want to present the title as if it is respectable in its procedure because fans would actually lose their **** if vacancy was handled the way it was in Sullivan's lifetime.
It used to be the last lineal champion decided who fought for his title. Every single one of you recognizes this when you post Hart as a lineal champion.
Every single one of you who recognizes Wlad and Hart as lineal champions recognizes two contradictory means of passing the title.
Because lineal is mostly made up bull**** that was pushed by Nat Fleischer, a man who made up history to make it flashier, whose motivations were to keep bare knuckle history in our minds. He did that, and I'm sure his ass did need to ****e things up to keep readers coming so good on him, but, his history of lineal, his history of colored champions, his history of bare knuckle period is ****ed and needs reworked.
That said, nothing matters more in lineal than popularity and popular opinion says Wlad was a lineal. Tyson beat Wlad, he picked up lineal status in the most traditional fashion possible; man who beat the man.
Now people want to interject more sanctioning body rules and claim Fury is not lineal because he ducked out of the sport a while....as if that never happened in Sullivan's lifetime. Him did drugs and drank and smoked, like that never happened in the pubs and bars era.
You can't strip a lineal...period. That's a brand new made up function people think has some legitimacy because Ali did not fight it. Well, everyone else who did won....including Tyson. You can not strip a lineal for inactivity, you can not strip a lineal for drugs, you can not strip a lineal period. They either lose or never fight again. That's it, quit adding sanctioning rules to bare knuckle traditions.
If you like ranks, if you like forced defenses of a championship like mandos, if you like active fighters who do what they claim, stick to the bodies, that's why they exist. Lineal is the time before any of that, duh. Lineal is the thing that inspired that, duh.
So, I respect DaNatural for accepting he simply does not respect lineal. Fine, glad to hear you've seen why bodies are important, and I'm even happier to know instead of trying to make lineal function like a body he'll just wash his hands of it. Proper way to deal with what you don't like.
If Wlad is a lineal than Tyson is the lineal. If Wlad's made up bull**** then we need to ask Lennox actually. If Lennox refuses then it goes to popular opinion and I believe Tyson wins that too. No matter how you cut it Fury is lineal unless you make up bull**** to make him not lineal.
Tyson - Wilder is a ****** as **** claim to reinstate Tyson. You have to use sanctioning era culture to strip him first then more sanctioning era culture for him to regain it. If there was ever a big bag of bull**** surrounding ground to crown a lineal that's it.
Joshua has his belts because that's how bodies work. If lineal worked like that, why do we have bodies? Duh. Tyson Fury is the lineal champion.Comment
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That was way more one sided than I thought it would be. What happened to Joshua's fans?
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