Top 5 Trainers In The Game????? History?????

[grayfist]

Duff was no trainer. I'm sure he means George Francis.

Jimmy Tibbs is my favourite British trainer, of my lifetime. I think he's the man.

Yeah, I think you're right. He's not referring to Duff.

Just as you posted your rejoinder, I had second thoughts and edited my post to say that Mickey is known by many people as matchmaker. But he did indeed had a career as trainer/matchmaker for small fights (after a brief stint as sewing machine salesman) at the time when Jack Solomon dominated big time British boxing.

I just made a wild guess (that's why I posted it with a question mark) knowing Duff's involvement in the fighters I mentioned.

[Left2body]

I don't recall actually seeing J Maxwell yet, is he any good?

Yeah, he is 11-1 with a controversial loss very early I think maybe his second fight. He is a middleweight but similar to Hatton at welterweight in that he is a little undersized in terms of height and reach. Very explosive to body. Also I know Patricks real last name, Maxwell was not his original and I believe he might've had another last name for a fight or 2 but for some reason they changed it again to Maxwell. Anyway I see him similar to Hatton but a bit more polished. So probably closer to Castillo because he actually boxes well from the outside when he choses to or is taking a round off for rest.

Here is a link to his Boxrec page:
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=16145

[Mr. Ryan]

To me, the mark of a great trainer is one that can take a fighter from the amateurs and make a success out of him. Also, they need to be able to take control of a fighters mind and make him overcome any mental weaknesses that could hold him back in a fight. Here is my list for all time great trainers.

1. Eddie Futch
2. Emmanuel Steward
3. Ray Arcel
4. George Benton
5. Don Turner

The best in the sport nowadays.

1. Dan Birmingham
2. Freddy Roach
3. Jeff Fenech
4. Nacho Beristain
5. Joe Goosen

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Jeff Fench? Asian man?? LOLOL I rate trainers like this....I mean, for example, Dan Birmingham had a year where Winky beat Tito and Lacy did real well and all of a suden he is the trainer of the year... ok, fine. But I am willing to bet Joe Calzaghes trainer doesnt get the trainer of the year award even though his boxer put on an all time great performance in beating Birminghams guy. I mean, how many people even know who Calzaghes trainer is? If the roles were reversed Dan would be the trainer of the year again. It's probably favortism by american media at work but it is also just smoke and mirrors. What I mean is, just because a guy wins the trainer of the year award or the fighter of the year for that matter it doesnt mean he is the BEST. It means only that he had a real good year. If Freddy Roach is better than Birmingham, for example, then he is better than him no matter what awards Dan wins and vice versa, no? It's like when Roy wasn't doing enough to win the 'fighter of the year' award... he was still a better fighter than whoever was winning it. There is no way to say who is the best trainer or who is a great trainer because EVERYTHING depends on the relationship with the fighter. Plenty of so called great trainers worked with Tyson but only Kevin Rooney had real success with him. Were Ronnie Shields and Tommy Brooks and Jeff Fenech NOT good trainers because they didnt do well with Mike? Its like if I train Mike and he does great then I am a great trainer but if he doesnt do good then I am not? NO. The trainers knows what he knows...he needs a fighter he can relate to, that will listen and exceute. And another thing that most do not realize and cannot understand.. just because you heard of a guy that doesnt mean he is a great trainer...and just because u never heard of a guy it deosnt mean he ISN'T. U know?? People throw names around of famous trainers as being the best and they often dont truly know one way or another if the guy is good or not. They are sometimes just going by what they hear from writers etc. People say so and so is a great trainer. I ask HOW do you know? They say... well, everybody says so.

[BuddyChacon]

Thanks for letting me know it was George Francis. I heard he killed himself a few years ago. From what I have read he was great.

[Mr. Ryan]

Jeff Fench? Asian man?? LOLOL I rate trainers like this....I mean, for example, Dan Birmingham had a year where Winky beat Tito and Lacy did real well and all of a suden he is the trainer of the year... ok, fine. But I am willing to bet Joe Calzaghes trainer doesnt get the trainer of the year award even though his boxer put on an all time great performance in beating Birminghams guy. I mean, how many people even know who Calzaghes trainer is? If the roles were reversed Dan would be the trainer of the year again. It's probably favortism by american media at work but it is also just smoke and mirrors. What I mean is, just because a guy wins the trainer of the year award or the fighter of the year for that matter it doesnt mean he is the BEST. It means only that he had a real good year. If Freddy Roach is better than Birmingham, for example, then he is better than him no matter what awards Dan wins and vice versa, no? It's like when Roy wasn't doing enough to win the 'fighter of the year' award... he was still a better fighter than whoever was winning it. There is no way to say who is the best trainer or who is a great trainer because EVERYTHING depends on the relationship with the fighter. Plenty of so called great trainers worked with Tyson but only Kevin Rooney had real success with him. Were Ronnie Shields and Tommy Brooks and Jeff Fenech NOT good trainers because they didnt do well with Mike? Its like if I train Mike and he does great then I am a great trainer but if he doesnt do good then I am not? NO. The trainers knows what he knows...he needs a fighter he can relate to, that will listen and exceute. And another thing that most do not realize and cannot understand.. just because you heard of a guy that doesnt mean he is a great trainer...and just because u never heard of a guy it deosnt mean he ISN'T. U know?? People throw names around of famous trainers as being the best and they often dont truly know one way or another if the guy is good or not. They are sometimes just going by what they hear from writers etc. People say so and so is a great trainer. I ask HOW do you know? They say... well, everybody says so.

I agree with what you say. I dunno, I just like the way Fenech cares about his fighters. He is a very hands on guy who works hard to motivate his fighters. I dunno, he probably doesn't deserve it based on anything hes really accomplished, but he hasn't exactly had the greatest talent thus far.

Dan Birmingham has shown that he can create world class talent with Wright and Lacy. He makes fighters, most of these trainers nowadays just steal the fighters from other trainers. You can't get a ****ing title shot without the right connections, it sucks. Angelo Dundee, Buddy McGirt,? You gotta be kidding me! Lou Duva isn't even a trainer, I don't know what people are talking about. He was working the corner of my boy Antonio Espinoza. Its funny, I didn't see him in training camp, he only showed up the night of the fight to be in the spotlight. He just wants the fame, but doesn't put in any kind of work.

[SquareCircle]

#1 Emmanuel Steward
#2 Mayweather Sr.
#3 Freddy Roach
#4 Noazim Richardson
#5 Billy Graham

[baya]

ricardo finito lopez.
rafa marquez.
juanma marquez.

**** that, nacho beristain is THEE best trainer out there.

[luistwentyone]

To me, the mark of a great trainer is one that can take a fighter from the amateurs and make a success out of him.

DEFINITELY !

1. Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain

2. Nacho Huizar

3. Tiburcio Garcia


Manny Steward is way over-rated, Hearns is all he had

[baya]

DEFINITELY !

1. Ignacio "Nacho" Beristain

2. Nacho Huizar

3. Tiburcio Garcia


Manny Steward is way over-rated

you know beristain, is derived from the israeli name, berisberger .. hence making nacho, i hate breaking this news to you, luisito, half israeli.

again, evidenced by nachos *** hook nose.