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  • El_Mero
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    #11
    Other than a signed contract, he DOESNT deserve another fight vs Fury.

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    • dibzvincent143
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      #12
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      I would rather undisputed, I'd've rathered undisputed before Fury was champion too.

      Since Joshua has madatories, who better to be Fury's first defense than the former champion?

      Whyte-Fury is less interesting, we know how Fury deals with Whyte types and even if Whyte is better than Chisora it's not by enough to push Fury out of first gear and we all know it.

      Usyk-Fury is fine by me actually but there isn't exactly a ton of threads, videos, articles, and or other form of media pushing Usyk toward Fury atm. From fans to pros no one is talking about Usyk-Fury. We all know Usyk's waiting on Josh.

      Ortiz just ktfo twice by Wilder.

      Ruiz I feel the same way as I do Whyte. He's good at what he does and maybe better than all the other fat plodders, but, he's not enough to make Fury even put on a show. Fury snoozes the fight out against guys like them.

      Kownacki just got stopped by an oldman with limited success.

      Povetkin's fair based on past credit, could be a good fight but I doubt it. Fury just darts and mauls him, he's old.

      Hunter is okay too, I wouldn't *****, but Wilder's a better win than Hunter ATM. Hunter's best HW win isn't a win it's a draw over an oldman who never got a real title.

      Chisora's done been whooped

      Pulev's Joshua's mando.

      So who in the WBC's top ten should Fury face? It's the best defense he can make that has any affect on his title's rankings.
      It’s not a question about who should fury fight next as we all want the undisputed fight with joshua — except for wilder fans maybe. Rather it is about why wilder goes directly back to fury when it’ll make things worse for him if he again loses. He can fight all the others you mentioned above and rebuild a bit of confidence if he wins.

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      • Real King Kong
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        #13
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        It is sense to take the rematch.

        Where else is he going to go? He's 35 years old.
        He should let fury fight aj and face the winner in a mega fight. If he can look good and score a spectacular ko in an interim fight...it’ll make the fight sell even better.

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          #14
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143
          It’s not a question about who should fury fight next as we all want the undisputed fight with joshua — except for wilder fans maybe. Rather it is about why wilder goes directly back to fury when it’ll make things worse for him if he again loses. He can fight all the others you mentioned above and rebuild a bit of confidence if he wins.
          Because he believes in himself. I don't think he's the type of guy who needs to rebuild confidence because I'm not sure he can actually have it shattered.

          He's done nothing but make excuses since his loss. Which means he still believes he can win, he hasn't accepted the loss as a loss and has written it off as a fluke. Twice now really.

          As a Wilder fan let me tell you, if he doesn't KO the other guy he does kind of lose. I'm not saying scores or anything like that, just when you KO everyone we start to expect it and when you can't that is disappointing. And yes, I was disappointed when he won his title after a full 12rds. I never needed to see 12rds from him.

          The first fury fight was a loss regardless of how you feel about the cards. I thought a draw was fair but the **** do I matter. Fury should have made Wilder accept right there he's not anointed by God, he does need to work hard, and he does need to evolve. The second fight proved he didn't bother with any of that and excused himself guilt for having not actually KO'd Fury. I get it, it was close to a KO. I get feeling like you did your part, but also improving would damn sure nail him down.

          Wilder showed no improvement, only Fury. The second fight it's the same Wilder and a new Fury, Wilder gets his ass kicked and immediately blames the suit.

          At first, when he was preambling with "I'm not making excuses" just before making an excuse I took that to mean he's acknowledging he has to improve. Since then he just keeps making excuses and honestly I think that's because he refuses to feel the loss.

          Wilder's in denial until he beats Fury. Then he'll talk about how great Fury is. If he never beats Fury I bet you anything he talks **** as an old man too. Makes excuses and **** for the rest of his days and never feels the loss for a loss.

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            Originally posted by jmrf4435
            Both fights were pretty one sided.

            Why is it basic consensus he "deserves" a rematch?
            He doesn't deserve one but it is in the contract so he can demand it. i wouldn't call the first fight one sided. a better referee and Fury would not have survive round 12.

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              #16
              Originally posted by dibzvincent143
              Uhm wait for the fury-joshua winner while he rebuilds his confidence against a B-level heavyweight? Or if he wants the ruiz and the whytes world as well. It’s not like it’s the only fight to make.

              If joshua also loses to fury then wilder can maybe get him too. The winner gets fury again... plenty of money left for him to make.

              You’re talking like it’s the end of the world for him.. Going straight to a 3rd fight will be ugly for him and closes the door to everything else. Yes he can win, but what if he doesn’t?
              He's 35 with a style that does not age well. He may well be shot after that beating and at 35, he has no time to rebuild, he's finished might as well take one last bag of ppv loot.

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                #17
                Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
                He's 35 with a style that does not age well. He may well be shot after that beating and at 35, he has no time to rebuild, he's finished might as well take one last bag of ppv loot.
                He may be, he may be not. But the chance that he beats other ranked boxers is still better than the chance that he beats fury in this trilogy, as for now, and as the way it looked in the second fight.

                fury got him figured out already. And has the confidence to walk thru him.

                Are those other boxers capable of having the mental capacity and skills to deliver the same? I highly doubt so.. they are all talked until they actually delivered it so far only fury delivered it.

                People will watch wilder-aj even if they both lose to fury. Hell mile tyson lost to all the other elites but that didn’t stop people from hoping for that puncher’s chance everytime he got a good outing against some B-fighter and it was obvious in the ppv fights.

                Im saying this ain’t the end game for wilder, if they’re being smart about it. 35 is not super old in the heavies, cmon now.
                Am a fury fan, but i dont hate on wilder and would greatly love it if he KOes any of ruiz whyte joshua and usyk. Now the chance to do that or for that to be enticing disappears if he losses two KOs in a row against fury don’t u think?

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                • dibzvincent143
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  He doesn't deserve one but it is in the contract so he can demand it. i wouldn't call the first fight one sided. a better referee and Fury would not have survive round 12.
                  So you would have rather the ref stopped it right there eventhough he saw fury being fine on the floor?

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                    #19
                    When Wilder wins it will go down as one of the biggest comebacks in modern day boxing history!

                    5 year champion gets absolutely destroyed in 7 rounds by the number 1 heavyweight in the world who was the former unified champ who then comes back to take back his titles after being written off by nearly everyone!

                    Who’s gonna play Wilder in movies?

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                    • daggum
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                      #20
                      you dont understand business. after losing all 3 fury fights and collecting some big money wilders star power will be at an all time high and then he can take the 100 million to fight joshua. this is how smart people think

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