Comments Thread For: Ali Salaam, Tony Harrison's Father & Trainer, Dies From COVID-19

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  • NachoMan
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    #31
    Originally posted by BoloShot
    Really? Go read the new studies. 0.06% mortality rate. A total ****ing joke. I was saying months ago that this likely had a 0.05% mortality rate and I was almost spot on with it. I know media hype when I see it and by the way this death could easily have been misreported as the guidelines for designating a covid death in the States right now are extremely lax, no testing is required to prove as much. Now, idiot, tell me how I was so ****** for guessing wrong on something so unlikely?
    It's not even that high. They are intentionally inflating the COVID-19 death count by calling any and all death (no antibody test required) a COVID-19 death, if there is any chance at all that it could "reasonably" be attributed to COVID-19. This is per CDC guidance published on April 2 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf). Beyond that, they can only calculate the case mortality rate. The infection mortality rate (the one that actually matters) cannot be calculated (AT ALL) without having an accurate count of the true number of folks infected by this virus. The medical community have not and cannot test the entire population (not enough tests from the beginning and only sick/paranoid people show up to get tests anyway). Far more people have been infected in reality, they just don't have any symptoms. The media's conflation of the infection and case mortality rates has been the primary fuel of this hysteria. The media knows the difference between case mortality rate and infection mortality rate, but they are quite intentionally conflating the two to drive this hysteria.

    When this is all said and done and the truth comes out (if ever because too many people have their reputations to protect), we will find that the true INFECTION MORTALITY RATE was no higher than .02%).
    Last edited by NachoMan; 04-20-2020, 03:12 PM.

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    • BoloShot
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      #32
      Originally posted by NachoMan
      It's not even that high. They are intentionally inflating the COVID-19 death count by calling any and all death (no test required) a COVID-19 death, if there is any chance at all that it could "reasonably" be attributed to COVID-19. This is per CDC guidance published on April 2 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf). Beyond that, they can only calculate the case mortality rate. The infection mortality rate (the one that actually matters) cannot be calculate (AT ALL) without having an accurate count of the number of folks infected. They have not and cannot test the entire population. Far more people have been infected in reality, they just don't have any symptoms. The media's conflation of the infection and case mortality rates has been the primary fuel of this hysteria. The media knows the difference between case mortality rate and infection mortality rate, but they are quite intentionally conflating the two to drive this hysteria.
      Oh don't worry I know damn well that's the case, sure I've said as much. These fools don't realise that most of us already got this ****ing thing, had no symptoms and are now immune. They'll likely take some rushed botched vaccine that actually spreads around a new vaccine strain of coronavirus or paralyses a bunch of kids due to some weird autoimmune response it triggers, let's not forget the WHO deliberately have unknowing Kenyan women a sterility formulated vaccine. Something nefarious is coming of this. You never know what will happen with it but I doubt it'll be good.
      I have a theory that big corporations urged for this shutdown so that their competition in small businesses will collapse. The economic downturn can also be profited from by buying up short stocks and then they'll get even richer off our collective misery. ****s.

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      • JLC
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        #33
        Originally posted by BoloShot
        Doubt it, the next wave of deaths will be non covid related as so many sick people without haven't been seen to. This **** is honestly not even as bad as the flu. Even doctors realise that now. We've been lied to big time.

        I hear a lot of people saying it isn’t as bad as the flu. I guess if you look at the amount of deaths that is true. But if you look at the recovery rate, it is a completely different story.

        From what I have read: if a random person catches the flu they have a 0.1 percent chance of dying. A tenth of one percent.

        For this COVID that number jumps up to 2.3 percent. Meaning the death ratio for corona is 230x higher than the flu.

        Adding to that, to think that this virus has only been talked about for like 4-5 months and it’s swept it’s way across the globe that fast, and infected so many people, I don’t think it’s fair to simply say “ We should be more concerned with the flu!”

        Clearly this things is different. Economies are shutting down, globally. Oil and commodities are dropping to levels not seen in decades. Unemployment at an all time high. Government is giving out trillions of dollars to spur the economy.

        Who is the central figure that Both benefits from all of this, and has the power and influence to control global media and push out misinformation to the public at such a large and effective scale? Again, we are taking globally.

        And if the doctors have realized it’s not as bad as the flu, how did you get this information but no one else has ? Honest question. Please share some info.

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        • KTFOKING
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          #34
          Originally posted by BoloShot
          Ah **** if I read that it was in Michigan I may have changed my statement. What age was Harrison's father? I also wonder if he was healthy as the fatter you are the worse it is for you. Actually I forgot to mention that many covid deaths are being misreported due to lack guidelines on designating covid deaths on death certificates. A sneaking su****ion is enough.
          He was 59 years old and didn't look to be be in bad condition.

          I mean I'm sure you had plenty of cases of people dying being classified as one thing where the person may have had the virus. And then you had those in early March that were being ruled out since the test results had not come in or the person wasn't tested yet.

          The numbers speak for themselves in the United States, especially in states like Michigan, Louisiana, NJ, NY etc.

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          • BoloShot
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            #35
            Originally posted by JLC
            I hear a lot of people saying it isn’t as bad as the flu. I guess if you look at the amount of deaths that is true. But if you look at the recovery rate, it is a completely different story.

            From what I have read: if a random person catches the flu they have a 0.1 percent chance of dying. A tenth of one percent.

            For this COVID that number jumps up to 2.3 percent. Meaning the death ratio for corona is 230x higher than the flu.

            Adding to that, to think that this virus has only been talked about for like 4-5 months and it’s swept it’s way across the globe that fast, and infected so many people, I don’t think it’s fair to simply say “ We should be more concerned with the flu!”

            Clearly this things is different. Economies are shutting down, globally. Oil and commodities are dropping to levels not seen in decades. Unemployment at an all time high. Government is giving out trillions of dollars to spur the economy.

            Who is the central figure that Both benefits from all of this, and has the power and influence to control global media and push out misinformation to the public at such a large and effective scale? Again, we are taking globally.

            And if the doctors have realized it’s not as bad as the flu, how did you get this information but no one else has ? Honest question. Please share some info.
            You're wrong, the newly reported figures coming out after antibody testing shows that it's actually more likely 0.06% man. It is not even as bad as the seasonal flu. May be more infectious but it does **** all to us. The number of misreported deaths is also high so those numbers are also fudged. Don't believe the hype, never do.

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            • BoloShot
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              #36
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              He was 59 years old and didn't look to be be in bad condition.

              I mean I'm sure you had plenty of cases of people dying being classified as one thing where the person may have had the virus. And then you had those in early March that were being ruled out since the test results had not come in or the person wasn't tested yet.

              The numbers speak for themselves in the United States, especially in states like Michigan, Louisiana, NJ, NY etc.
              The problem is that the requirements to putting down a death as a covid death are really lax. Like any symptoms associated with and you can be out down as a covid death on the certificate. The amount of diseases that share symptoms with covid is countless. The numbers have been greatly fudged. People also die of other diseases all the time. This is just being reported on at such a scale to inspire fear and sell headlines, the ultimate goal of media talking heads. Plus an over 50s black male is at a high risk because they often have underlying heart conditions and that won't do them any good.

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              • KTFOKING
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                #37
                Originally posted by BoloShot
                The problem is that the requirements to putting down a death as a covid death are really lax. Like any symptoms associated with and you can be out down as a covid death on the certificate. The amount of diseases that share symptoms with covid is countless. The numbers have been greatly fudged. People also die of other diseases all the time. This is just being reported on at such a scale to inspire fear and sell headlines, the ultimate goal of media talking heads. Plus an over 59s black male is at a high risk because they often have underlying heart conditions and that won't do them any good.
                Good, it needs to inspire fear. Rather it do that than have people be foolish in thinking they can't be affected by the virus.

                Sure, Ali may have had some underlying heart condition or some other underlying condition, but he wouldn't have died if it wasn't for the virus. So many people have underlying heart conditions that they don't even know about. LIS, unless the person is taking constant physicals and taking the appropriate tests every year, they won't know what they have or don't have.

                As for COVID19 having similar symptoms to other diseases? True, but then look at those that were dying and it being classified as pneumonia when it was due to the actual virus.

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #38
                  RIP & love & positivity to the Harrison family.

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                  • slimPickings
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                    #39
                    I remember an interview the father did after Tony's tough loss to Charlo.
                    He was sooo gracious in defeat .. i became a fan of his.

                    Condolences to the family.

                    Covid 19 is really wrecking havoc. Cant lower your guard for a second and it strikes!!
                    Daily reminder that this $h!t is real!!

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                    • marvin douglas
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                      #40
                      So sorry bro. Our prayers are with you.

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