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I those so called power punches have little effect on your opponent how can you score them more than any other punch. You can't. Golovkin walked through an awful lot of Canelo's so called power punches. When there were too many of them he simply stepped back moved to the side and kept the center of the ring. Golovkin was never stunned floored or dazed by Canelo's best shots. As Paulie pointed out Canelo winds up to generate power on his punches. It looks fkashy. Golovkin has natural power in his punches. He doesn't have to wind up and they are very hard shots. Golovkin used his jab and mixed in power punches to tame the younger faster fighter. As far as body punches I personally always count them. But you can't give them any more consideration versus other punches.
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I those so called power punches have little effect on your opponent how can you score them more than any other punch. You can't. Golovkin walked through an awful lot of Canelo's so called power punches. When there were too many of them he simply stepped back moved to the side and kept the center of the ring. Golovkin was never stunned floored or dazed by Canelo's best shots. As Paulie pointed out Canelo winds up to generate power on his punches. It looks fkashy. Golovkin has natural power in his punches. He doesn't have to wind up and they are very hard shots. Golovkin used his jab and mixed in power punches to tame the younger faster fighter. As far as body punches I personally always count them. But you can't give them any more consideration versus other punches.Last edited by TonyGe; 04-22-2020, 11:57 AM. -
Did I say anything about ggg being better than Hopkins? I’m just saying he faced a lot of mediocre opposition during his run at mw, which was the original comparison being made by the other poster. It’s telling that a blown up ww was his biggest win at 36 years old more than a decade into his career. List his best opponents/wins at mw.are you fcuken ****** ?
they are not even close you moron
btw, I already broke down that comparison in two short sentences
FACT: Hopkins beat REAL champions... Hypekin beat scrubs
FACT: Hopkins did what he needed to do to make big fights
and I will add 1 more...
FACT: Hopkins did not do everything he could to avoid every possible threat... like Golovkin
if you need to know who those REAL champions are, then you should not be here... and if you need to know the concessions Hopkins made, and the concessions Bullshltkin refused to make... again, you should not be here
dude, you are a just silly fat useless cvnt if you think that Golovkin is better than HopkinsComment
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As I mentioned, I use the 10 pt. must scoring system. So I don't just count punches. I factor Clean Hard Punches, Defense, Ring Generalship, and effective aggression.
I scored the first fight for Canelo, but I admit many of the rounds looked close because of GGGs higher work rate in that fight.
Canelo swept the first four rounds on my card, and the last three. Between rounds 4-9 there were a few toss up rounds, it's just the kind of fight it was. While GGG showed aggression in rounds 4-9, it wasn't particularly effective, and while Canelo's aggression slowed down in those same rounds, he demonstrated great defense.
I don't necessarily want to get into details about rounds here, my point being that as a fan of boxing, and a level headed fan, I can see why many people who don't factor defense and ring generalship felt GGG won, and I won't argue against their opinion much.
The fight was so close that the draw seems fair. To call either fight a robbery is ridiculous. Lewis-Holyfield was a robbery, Canelo-GGG was an extremely competitive and close fight.Comment
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No that is all correct.
Theres no question Canelo was NOT a MW in the sense of 160lbs but he also was NOT a JMW as he preferred to fight at 155 and not 154.
Canelo won the MW title at 154 so it's natural he wanted to defend it there. People blame Canelo for ducking the fight but really the blame is on the WBC for telling Canelo he has 14 days to negotiate a fight. I mean most fighters are on vacation following a fight and recovering from injuries...no clue why WBC tried pressuring Canelo into forcing him to do negotiations instead.
And as far as GGG goes he made CW offer of 157 to Rosario, CW offer of 164 to Ward, and fought at CW of 164 for Rick Rolls. So GGG was being a prima donna to be honest.
Canelo was never at fault for not fighting GGG at 160. Canelo was the champ and became champ by beating Cotto at 155 (Cottos demand)...
Nonetheless it was a shame GGG got boxed out in his "prime" but he didnt make it easy for himself by selectively offering CWs and not trying to be great...like fighting Canelo/Cotto at CW, beating Kell Brook at his requested CW of 157, beating Ward at 168, beating Dervenchenko or Andrade on short notice, rematching Jacobs, rematching Dervenchenko, BJS, etc. That wouldve put him into ATG status
To this day a person can make the case GGG LOST to Jacobs, Canelo twice, and Dervenchenko...meaning he had zero meaningful wins EVER at MW. Really a shame manLast edited by UNBANNED; 04-22-2020, 12:27 PM.Comment
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Canelo has 4 losses in my book.
Floyd
Lara
GGG 1
GGG 2
He's a great fighter. Future HOF. But he has the most questionable scorecards ive ever seen in my entire life watching boxing.Comment
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