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  • Apollo7
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    #261
    Originally posted by Goldie
    Yes, because I’m going to let the people who created and benefit from racism define what it means to me. No conflict of interest for this dumb schit you’re saying huh? “Well technically my white man dictionary defines racism as......” You sound dumb as fk.
    "Racist" and "racism" are words with definitions. You can't just make up your own definition to suit your agenda.


    Originally posted by Goldie
    I don’t complain about anything you ****** fk. Pointing something out isn’t complaining. Complaining is what idiots like you do. “You’re a racist for saying that’s racist Wah wahh wahh”. Lol straight up cowards to the core of your souls. You can’t help it.
    You are pointing it out in order to complain about it. Complaining about racism is a valid complaint imo.

    Originally posted by Goldie
    I suspect he is fed up with the constant anti black rhetoric that black boxers and black boxing fans are constantly subjected to. You’ve got a whole agenda pushed by boxing media and non black fans to promote and overhype loma as this legendary atg fighter, and black people who challenge that are attacked. He’s been going at loma trying to get a fight made since last year, so he’s undoubtedly been getting it the worst. I can only imagine the feedback he’s been getting from non black “fans”. Most of you seriously have a lack of understanding and basic compassion.
    That is no excuse. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Originally posted by Goldie
    Ive already explained why you can’t equate comments with systematic discrimination unless the comments perpetuate systematic discrimination. Haneys comments don’t perpetuate and kind of systematic discrimination against whites.

    Y’all always want to play this “well if the shoe was on the other foot.......” game when we arent wearing the same shoes. We don’t even wear the same size shoes. These “if a white person had said that......” games never work because whites and blacks aren’t playing on an equal playing field.

    For instance, racist whites love throwing around IQ scores and bragging on the general differences, but what they don’t tell you is that they deliberately sabotage blacks in education to ensure that IQ scores are generally lower. Blacks aren’t sabotaging whites in boxing or any other area of activity. That’s why it’s not the same. If white boys in boxing don’t like what Haney said then they’re on an equal playing field and have a fair shot to get in the ring and prove that they’re not his inferior.
    People are simply condemning his racist comments the same way they would/should comdemn anyone elses racist comments regardless of the race of the person making those comments.

    Systemic racial discrimination starts with racist beliefs which can be expressed and spread through racist comments. It's all part of the same problem. You can't fight against racism and fight for equality and at the same time defend racist comments otherwise you are a hypocrite who is undermining that cause. Excusing or attempting to justify Haney's comments is cowardly and just encourages more racism from both sides.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #262
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      And you are defending him like you know him personally.
      Maybe he’s trying to copy Floyd but he looks nothing like Floyd and fights no where close like Floyd.
      He’s going to get beat just like Hopkins.
      I aint say believe what Raheem said... But i felt like it should be brought up.

      And im not gonna join the lynch mob over one comment. After seeing other guys continue to get the benefit of the doubt.

      Sergey Kov. called someone a monkey, and non-black posters brushed that shyt off and told us stop crying which seems to always be said to us when its toward us.

      Especially on this site.... Where certain races get the innocent till proven guilty treatment while others are guilty guilty guilty and if u attempt to be fair or don't join the lynching u basically did it too in the lynch mobs head.

      Can u admit that? Btw I admit that Haney was wrong, when alot of black guys are so caught up in the hypocrite finger pointing they refuse out of spite!

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      • IceTrayDaGang
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        #263
        typical african americans response when called out on their racism.. "i'm not a racist".. "yall the racist one".. "yall racist for accusing me".. " this is what blacks have to deal with on the daily", etc...

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        • KillaMane26
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          #264
          Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
          I read alot of the transcript of what Radio Rahim said and I think it's pretty much spot-on. Haney wants big fights, he wants the stardom and the big paydays that they bring. He seems like an intelligent guy and he's obviously talented but his style doesn't always translate to excitement of buzz.

          I doubt his comments were pre-planned but he's getting his name out there and it's like showbusiness, the only bad press is no press. He's the bad guy now, he keeps winning it's not a problem. If he ever does lose to a white fighter he will hear his words come back at him.

          Yes.... Going by Haneys reputation he should get the benefit of doubt when guys like Sergey who have bad reputations get.

          Like i sated b4.... Most guys know in their heart Haney aint racist! We know Haney a good kid. But like Radio said he under that Mayweather umbrella and his career might be at a crosswords. Wait for a handout which might never come....or "take it" his true fans will remain fans.... His family will stay intact. If he has to sacrifice a couple white fans to get what he needs from the sport. Fck it.... Fans are fickle anyways

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          • Ray*
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            #265
            Originally posted by Apollo7


            People are simply condemning his racist comments the same way they would/should comdemn anyone elses racist comments regardless of the race of the person making those comments.

            Systemic racial discrimination starts with racist beliefs which can be expressed and spread through racist comments. It's all part of the same problem. You can't fight against racism and fight for equality and at the same time defend racist comments otherwise you are a hypocrite who is undermining that cause. Excusing or attempting to justify Haney's comments is cowardly and just encourages more racism from both sides.
            Top post, and an important one. No point in trying to justify anything that is perceived as negative. Doesn't make any sense. You condemn it and move on, irrespective of who is involved.

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            • Mindgames
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              #266
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              You been a part of this world? It's racist. We can't cry forever. I'd assume most of us heard worse to our faces.
              Mate I live in the worst spot in London. I grew up mixed race in Peckham and got at least as much **** from Black people as white. He doesn't deserve to be executed i know, but he aint even said sorry yet.

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              • Mammoth
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                #267
                Originally posted by Mindgames
                Mate I live in the worst spot in London. I grew up mixed race in Peckham and got at least as much **** from Black people as white. He doesn't deserve to be executed i know, but he aint even said sorry yet.
                I doubt he'll apologize.

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                • Goldie
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                  #268
                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  "Racist" and "racism" are words with definitions. You can't just make up your own definition to suit your agenda.
                  To white supremacists, whites are the only ones who get to define things. Language is and has always been fluid. Words and definitions change all of the time. The definitions of all words are a result of people just making them up, but you only think whites have that authority because it suits your agenda.

                  I’ve already explained why the white definition of “racism” is problematic/inaccurate and why the definition that I use is more accurate. You haven’t explained anything. Your argument is basically “we’re white and we say so, so that’s what it is”. Nevermind the obvious conflict of interest in whites defining racism. Going along with the white definition of racism is like going along with the trump definition of “lie”. It makes no sense. Of course whites are going to define “racism” in a way suits their agenda. They created racism.

                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  You are pointing it out in order to complain about it. Complaining about racism is a valid complaint imo.
                  You’re not smart enough to understand my thought process so you’d be better off just asking questions instead of making a fool of yourself trying to tell me what I think and how I feel. I point out anti black racism for 2 reasons. The 2 reasons are that non blacks are always in constant denial about their anti black feelings and they immediately cry “reverse racism” when we call BS on their denials. It’s that simple. This thread is a perfect example. Here people are trying to paint Haney as a racist. That’s ridiculous to me so I counter that by pointing out the difference in talking schit which harms no one, from systematic oppression which harms masses of people.

                  There’s no point in complaining about racism because complaining or trying to appeal to non blacks peoples better nature is futile. It doesn’t work because people don’t have a better nature. People are evil and we just have to accept it.



                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  That is no excuse. Two wrongs don't make a right.
                  Who is saying that he needs an excuse and that he was wrong? People like you are saying that. The question is, why should he or any other black person give a fk what you think? So what you think it was racist and wrong? It’s fk you and what you think. That’s my point here. Y’all are in no position to call black people racist. What Haney said wasn’t racist and I explained why. If y’all want to keep crying about it then cry your eyes out. Doesn’t move me at all.

                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  People are simply condemning his racist comments the same way they would/should comdemn anyone elses racist comments regardless of the race of the person making those comments.

                  Systemic racial discrimination starts with racist beliefs which can be expressed and spread through racist comments. It's all part of the same problem. You can't fight against racism and fight for equality and at the same time defend racist comments otherwise you are a hypocrite who is undermining that cause. Excusing or attempting to justify Haney's comments is cowardly and just encourages more racism from both sides.
                  No, systematic racism starts with people creating a system of discrimination against racial group(s) to ensure the privilege of another racial group. You desperately want to dilute and dumb racism down to trivial schit like “comments and thoughts/beliefs” as a deflection. If you don’t have the power to enforce your racial prejudices then you’re no threat to anyone. You can’t legislate thoughts/beliefs.

                  People here are simply trying to deflect from their own anti black racism by trying to play this “both sides” game pretending to be outraged over a bs comment. Any white person who’s actually offended by this is an ignorant piece of schit who’s clearly ******. Just think about the gall it takes to be a privileged person on the strength of the racial terrorism that your people have committed all over the world, who runs around accusing the people you’ve oppressed of being racist to you based on a flippant comment. Y’all have no shame whatsoever.

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                  • Boxing_1013
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by Goldie
                    To white supremacists, whites are the only ones who get to define things. Language is and has always been fluid. Words and definitions change all of the time. The definitions of all words are a result of people just making them up, but you only think whites have that authority because it suits your agenda.

                    I’ve already explained why the white definition of “racism” is problematic/inaccurate and why the definition that I use is more accurate. You haven’t explained anything. Your argument is basically “we’re white and we say so, so that’s what it is”. Nevermind the obvious conflict of interest in whites defining racism. Going along with the white definition of racism is like going along with the trump definition of “lie”. It makes no sense. Of course whites are going to define “racism” in a way suits their agenda. They created racism.

                    You’re not smart enough to understand my thought process so you’d be better off just asking questions instead of making a fool of yourself trying to tell me what I think and how I feel. I point out anti black racism for 2 reasons. The 2 reasons are that non blacks are always in constant denial about their anti black feelings and they immediately cry “reverse racism” when we call BS on their denials. It’s that simple. This thread is a perfect example. Here people are trying to paint Haney as a racist. That’s ridiculous to me so I counter that by pointing out the difference in talking schit which harms no one, from systematic oppression which harms masses of people.

                    There’s no point in complaining about racism because complaining or trying to appeal to non blacks peoples better nature is futile. It doesn’t work because people don’t have a better nature. People are evil and we just have to accept it.



                    Who is saying that he needs an excuse and that he was wrong? People like you are saying that. The question is, why should he or any other black person give a fk what you think? So what you think it was racist and wrong? It’s fk you and what you think. That’s my point here. Y’all are in no position to call black people racist. What Haney said wasn’t racist and I explained why. If y’all want to keep crying about it then cry your eyes out. Doesn’t move me at all.

                    No, systematic racism starts with people creating a system of discrimination against racial group(s) to ensure the privilege of another racial group. You desperately want to dilute and dumb racism down to trivial schit like “comments and thoughts/beliefs” as a deflection. If you don’t have the power to enforce your racial prejudices then you’re no threat to anyone. You can’t legislate thoughts/beliefs.

                    People here are simply trying to deflect from their own anti black racism by trying to play this “both sides” game pretending to be outraged over a bs comment. Any white person who’s actually offended by this is an ignorant piece of schit who’s clearly ******. Just think about the gall it takes to be a privileged person on the strength of the racial terrorism that your people have committed all over the world, who runs around accusing the people you’ve oppressed of being racist to you based on a flippant comment. Y’all have no shame whatsoever.
                    Serious question - how did you feel about Wilder losing to Fury?

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                    • Mindgames
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      I doubt he'll apologize.
                      I agree with you there. Then I don't suppose he'll be too popular with people who dislike racists. But oh well.

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