Y'all...Terence Crawford just exposed himself.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #11
    Originally posted by hectari
    He wants Pacman because thats the most winnable and highest reward fight possible, whats wrong with that? the fight is 90 to 10 in his favor.

    Stylistically Crawford is too good for this Pacman. Also if the fight happens Pac will not be able to win on the cards even if its close, they will give it to Crawford to transfer the power.

    Porter does nothing for his legacy or status, all a porter fight does for Crawford is set him up with ring damage and a possible loss if he wins he will be roughed up and have wear and tear because Porter is a tough out for everyone.
    Here's what's wrong with it.

    If Crawford beats Manny - and I don't think it's as given as you do that he does - it'll be "Manny was old". Asterisk.

    If Manny beats Crawford, which I find quite likely because Manny is excellent in rounds 1-6 against anyone especially if there's NO drug testing - it lessens the value of a Spence or Porter fight.

    It's like Wilder/Joshua, which should have happened before either guy fought their rematches.

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    • Richard G
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      #12
      Things are not like they used to be, current boxers have plenty of examples from those who went before them and are now or were obviously punch drunk. So for their own well being it's smart for them to limit their number of fights, fight bums and max out their pay. With Crawdaddy for all we know he may have a slight brain problem or he may have been warned to take it easy.

      Something has changed if he now wants to fight Packy, who he would beat easily I predict. It's a pity in a way but we fans want what's best for us which is not always what's best for a boxer, can't blame them.

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      • MastaBlasta
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        #13
        Originally posted by DKH530
        Why is Spence more popular than Crawford? He's pretty surly too and rarely gives other fighters their due. Is it Dallas vs Omaha?
        After Floyd retired, and Paq took an easy fight with Horn and lost, Spence called out the new WW elite relentlessly (Porter, Thurman, Swift Garcia). They would not consider giving him a fight, for B-side or any other money. He trudged on until he positioned himself as a mandatory ... and fought and beat Kell Brook in his backyard in England.

        That endeared him to boxing fans all over.

        Crawford (who I personally like almost as much) moved up and has been demanding the biggest fights at WW. Boxing fans the world over aren't big on "privilege".

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        • MastaBlasta
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          #14
          Crawford would impress everyone by stepping up and fighting Porter (a top 4 WW on any current list), who I predict will again be a WW Champ. Put all that friends stuff away, this is huge money, and Porter is ready to fight him ... he just isn't trying to embarrass him with it.

          Crawford either wins or loses. A win gets him anyone he wants in a huge fight, and he might be the A-side. A loss shows him (and the world) where he should be in the WW heirarchy. Crawford has an excellent chance at becoming a unified WW champ, but the only way to do it is to take the fights. Crying/begging/rationalizing for certain opponents has him in limbo while time slips away ... and fans don't want political champs (we've had a few lately). They want champs that do it in the ring.

          All top ten guys in a division are worthy fights on the resume. Top five guys are as good as it gets.

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          • MastaBlasta
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            #15
            Originally posted by revelated
            Spence is more popular because
            (A) he went international to take the IBF that Porter lost domestically, got him exposure in the UK
            (B) he holds TWO of the three major belts, one of them the top belt in the division
            (C) His destruction of Ocampo got him exposure in Mexico
            (D) his win over Shawn Porter, a guy featured on major networks like Fox, got him more domestic exposure

            Spence has been willing to do what Crawford has not - go over the pond to fight for titles, fight threats, and defend his standing against most anyone who asks.
            Spot on. I didn't see this post before I posted, else I would have passed ...

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              #16
              Originally posted by MastaBlasta
              Spot on. I didn't see this post before I posted, else I would have passed ...
              It's fine. I'm trying my desperate darndest to help more on NSB realize the truth about Crawford. He's smoke and mirrors and he's been lying about being ducked, like I repeatedly said.

              He's creating the very street he says doesn't exist.

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                All right, you sold me. That’s the fight I want to see, but Thurman-Crawford would be an interesting match as well. Porter is in that tough place where he looks like a stepping stone and I’m not sure what fight gets him off that track. Maybe any fight as long as he wins.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DKH530
                  All right, you sold me. That’s the fight I want to see, but Thurman-Crawford would be an interesting match as well. Porter is in that tough place where he looks like a stepping stone and I’m not sure what fight gets him off that track. Maybe any fight as long as he wins.
                  At this point, I'd accept anyone of the following list, in order of preference:
                  • Ugas - based on me feeling like he did enough to beat Porter, I think he would be a wildcard test for Crawford
                  • Danny 'Swift' - they have history in the amateurs, they have beef because of it, Danny has never been dropped, stopped or widely beaten by anyone. Excellent test for someone who goes for the KO
                  • Shawn Porter - good test for Spence, hell, good test for anyone. I don't think it treats him like a stepping stone at all, because he of them all has a VERY good chance of beating Crawford, who only excels when he is the aggressor, as we saw against Gamboa and Kavaliauskas, he doesn't handle pressure. Those two gassed; Porter doesn't.
                  • Keef Thurman - I honestly think that Crawford beats him. BUT, not before being really tested. Keef doesn't eat punches, he was more accurate than Manny. which means all Crawford can really use is the body work and hope Keef folds. Can Crawford sustain a body assault for 12 rounds without getting chin checked?
                  • Manny Pacquiao - he's older. it's a fight that should only happen if he's still winning.
                  • Errol Spence - yes, last, because the previous tests will tell the world if Crawford is legit or not. Even if he loses to a guy but looks excellent doing so, you can now tell the story that he is a live dog at the upper level.


                  Fighting Ugas will tell us how he handles a durable, solid fighter that took a Top 5 to a near loss.

                  Fighting Danny will tell us about the chin, because Swift WILL land the No Look Hook™ flush on the chin, as Crawford is there to be hit.

                  Fighting Porter, with the right ref, will tell us how Crawford handles true, nonstop, relentless pressure and headbutts.

                  Fighting Keef will tell us how Crawford deals with strikers with a good gas tank. Kavaliauskas was winning until he gassed out.

                  Fighting Manny would only tell us whether Crawford gets dropped like Bradley and Keef did under an early round assault.

                  Because fighting Spence? He'd be dealing with ALL of that in one fighter.
                  Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 04-18-2020, 01:08 PM.

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