>>> Lomachenko's three best wins???

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  • BoloShot
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    #31
    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
    You have no interest in debating the FACTS - so - I consider that as an admission your part that your argument is baseless and indefensible.

    As such, I have no problem with accepting your surrender.

    The issue we were debating was not that I use the term "Lomfako". We were debating the FACTS as they relate to Lomafako's weak resume. We can return to that debate anytime you're ready to retract your surrender and get back on topic..
    If you're not gonna give Loma's opponents their due, then there's no point discussing this. Your opinion (not a fact) is that Walters was diminished due to taking an 11 month hiatus after having a draw with another very good fighter in Sosa. I don't see any issue at all with his win over a prime, undefeated Gary Russell Jr. I don't include Rigo and never did due to size difference. Leaving Linares who was considered the top dog at lightweight having gone on a 13 fight win streak where he won the WBC, WBA and The Ring belts. If Walters wasn't good enough then maybe Sosa was, that was a good win too.
    You're gonna try to discredit these wins but you'll be wrong.

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    • _Rexy_
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      #32
      well, he's fought nine world champions, but sure. He's fought nobody.

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      • Nay_Sayer
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        #33
        Originally posted by BoloShot
        If you're not gonna give Loma's opponents their due, then there's no point discussing this.
        Just due? Lol. All I need to do is deal with the FACTS. Something the Lomafako nut hugging crowd is incapable of..


        Originally posted by BoloShot
        Your opinion (not a fact) is that Walters was diminished due to taking an 11 month hiatus
        I never said anything about Walters being "diminished". I simply stated the FACT that he was coming off of a year layoff. This is a simple FACT that you Lomafako nut huggers seem incapable of coming to terms with.

        FACTS. Learn to live with them.



        Originally posted by BoloShot
        after having a draw with another very good fighter in Sosa.
        LMAO

        It's my opinion that Walters looked like **** in the Sosa fight - and I think any objective viewer would agree. The draw supports this observation. And when did Sosa become a "very good fighter?"


        Originally posted by BoloShot
        I don't see any issue at all with his win over a prime, undefeated Gary Russell Jr.
        There is no issue with the win over GRJ. None at all. However, beating the likes of GRJ does not make you an ATG. It.Just.Doesn't.



        Originally posted by BoloShot
        I don't include Rigo and never did due to size difference. Leaving Linares who was considered the top dog at lightweight having gone on a 13 fight win streak where he won the WBC, WBA and The Ring belts. If Walters wasn't good enough then maybe Sosa was, that was a good win too. You're gonna try to discredit these wins but you'll be wrong.
        Discredit these wins? WTF? You make it sound like he just demolished a modern day Murderer's Row. Walters didn't even win his previous fight, FFS. NONE of the names on Lomafako's resume are HoF worthy execpt for Rigo - which you yourself don't even include and a good win. So how is this guy supposed to be an ATG? WHO has he beaten?

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        • BoloShot
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          #34
          Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
          Just due? Lol. All I need to do is deal with the FACTS. Something the Lomafako nut hugging crowd is incapable of..


          I never said anything about Walters being "diminished". I simply stated the FACT that he was coming off of a year layoff. This is a simple FACT that you Lomafako nut huggers seem incapable of coming to terms with.

          FACTS. Learn to live with them.



          LMAO

          It's my opinion that Walters looked like **** in the Sosa fight - and I think any objective viewer would agree. The draw supports this observation. And when did Sosa become a "very good fighter?"


          There is no issue with the win over GRJ. None at all. However, beating the likes of GRJ does not make you an ATG. It.Just.Doesn't.



          Discredit these wins? WTF? You make it sound like he just demolished a modern day Murderer's Row. Walters didn't even win his previous fight, FFS. NONE of the names on Lomafako's resume are HoF worthy execpt for Rigo - which you yourself don't even include and a good win. So how is this guy supposed to be an ATG? WHO has he beaten?
          I'm not a fanboy and I never said that Loma is an ATG, he's not there yet, he's only 15 fights into his career. I mean cop on dude. Sosa was a good fighter perhaps after drawing with Walters and beating a 29-0-1 Javier Fortuna and Stephen Smith... Those were his three fights before Loma, tell me how he wasn't a good fighter then based off that. An 11 month lay off isn't that much either, that's the kind of break you'd expect if a fighter had a minor injury and had to reschedule a fight for later. If we were talking two years, yeah, he'd be rusty. But 11 months where he was training for most of it and in camp for at least two months is nothing. Come back at me with a "fact" that holds up to actual scrutiny rather than being perceived by your feeble hating mind.
          Last edited by BoloShot; 04-14-2020, 02:53 PM.

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          • EDDIE SPERM
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            #35
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Can we get a consensus on Lomachenko's three best wins?
            Rigo, Gary Russell, & Jorge Linares? Lmao either way dude's scalp is for the taking. Teofimo won't beat him IMO neither will Tank w/ his crap endurance/stamina. Haney is possible even though I see Ryan being groomed up to end Loma's career

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            • AKAcronym
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              #36
              Anybody who repeatedly spams the word facts in their argument, usually aren't presenting actual facts.

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              • MulaKO
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                #37
                Originally posted by akacronym
                anybody who repeatedly spams the word facts in their argument, usually aren't presenting actual facts.
                hahahahahahahahahahaha

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                • Nay_Sayer
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BoloShot
                  Sosa was a good fighter perhaps after drawing with Walters and beating a 29-0-1 Javier Fortuna and Stephen Smith... Those were his three fights before Loma, tell me how he wasn't a good fighter then based off that.

                  Come back at me with a "fact" that holds up to actual scrutiny rather than being perceived by your feeble hating mind.
                  FACT: Sosa, in his very next fight, drops a decision to Yuriorkis Gamboa - who was one fight removed from getting KO'ed by a 23-12 Robinson Castellanos.

                  FACTS. Learn to live with them.



                  Originally posted by BoloShot
                  An 11 month lay off isn't that much either, that's the kind of break you'd expect if a fighter had a minor injury and had to reschedule a fight for later. If we were talking two years, yeah, he'd be rusty. But 11 months where he was training for most of it and in camp for at least two months is nothing.
                  An 11 month layoff "isn't much"? LOL. It's becoming obvious that YDKSAB. Even Walters himself says that the year layoff was an issue and that he needed a tuneup. All these excuses you're making for the lack of depth in Lomafako's resume is really not a good look.




                  FACTS. Learn to live with them.

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                  • Goldie
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BoloShot
                    If you're not gonna give Loma's opponents their due, then there's no point discussing this. Your opinion (not a fact) is that Walters was diminished due to taking an 11 month hiatus after having a draw with another very good fighter in Sosa. I don't see any issue at all with his win over a prime, undefeated Gary Russell Jr. I don't include Rigo and never did due to size difference. Leaving Linares who was considered the top dog at lightweight having gone on a 13 fight win streak where he won the WBC, WBA and The Ring belts. If Walters wasn't good enough then maybe Sosa was, that was a good win too.
                    You're gonna try to discredit these wins but you'll be wrong.
                    3 “good” wins doesn’t make a guy with 14 total wins an all time great legendary fighter. That’s the point. Russell and Walters were “good” wins not “great”. Linares was a good win but the fight was closer than predicted and he was touched up in the fight. That’s not atg or legendary.

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                    • Rusty Tromboni
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                      FACT: Sosa, in his very next fight, drops a decision to Yuriorkis Gamboa - who was one fight removed from getting KO'ed by a 23-12 Robinson Castellanos.

                      FACTS. Learn to live with them.



                      An 11 month layoff "isn't much"? LOL. It's becoming obvious that YDKSAB. Even Walters himself says that the year layoff was an issue and that he needed a tuneup. All these excuses you're making for the lack of depth in Lomafako's resume is really not a good look.




                      FACTS. Learn to live with them.
                      Fact: You can't find a fighter with a performance greater than Lomachenko's victory over Rigo or Linares.

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