Jeff Lacy knocks Canelo out cold at 168

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wow

Kirkland 2.0

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Canelo would KTFO Lacey

Golovkin would never be able to make that fight

he would offer Lacey $1.5m, and then quickly run off to fight Thurman at 160... with no counter-offer, and no negotiation

and Loeffler would tell the press...

" *chuckle* we can't make these guys fight Gennady "

then we would find out that Thurman made $4m + PPV

are you conflating events again? that's shocking. not from you!

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Canelo would KTFO Lacey

Golovkin would never be able to make that fight

he would offer Lacey $1.5m, and then quickly run off to fight Thurman at 160... with no counter-offer, and no negotiation

and Loeffler would tell the press...

" *chuckle* we can't make these guys fight Gennady *cheesy smile* "

then we would find out that Thurman made $4m + PPV

g-strings would insist that Lacey priced himself out... and Thurman is a star

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are you conflating events again? that's shocking. not from you!

that is EXACTLY what he did to Saunders with Brook loooool


I just swopped the names

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I remember there was a time when people thought Lacy was the next big thing. Only 2 regulars in Yahoo! Chat thought otherwise out of around 15 people. To think he could do such a thing at this juncture though is ridiculous, to say the least. He has been exposed and everyone who believed in him to the extent they did have been proven to be idiots.

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that is EXACTLY what he did to Saunders with Brook loooool


I just swopped the names

actually your time line is off but putting that aside. the money for the brook fight came from brook. the money for the saunders fight came from hbo's pursestrings. there was not 4 million to give to saunders and even implying that makes you lack all credibility. you do realize ggg had to travel to fight brook in the uk right? the saunders fight would have taken place on normal hbo. where is the 4 million to pay saunders coming from? no ggg opponent had made more than 1.5 before that and that was what saunders was offered. you love making things up don't you and doing your false equivalency dance. brook and saunders are the same derp derp! cept they aren't. brook was a huge star. hence more money. you failed.

going back to the original timeine where you were wrong. saunders was offered the fight in january 2016. the brook fight was in september. after saunders turned it down ggg fought wade not saunders. wade made 500k so ggg was wiling to pay saunders 3 times more. ggg was willing to pay saunders as much as lemiuex had just earned for a ppv fight and lemiuex had been on american tv more than saunders. saunders literally said this "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." once again you failed. wrong time line and the guy himself says if was great money.

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why would you make paper-mache arguments that fall apart instantly when you realize your whole argument hinges on pretending brook who sells 27000 tickets and saunders who fights on undercards are on the same level of star/monetary power? omg there was more money in a brook fight? SHOCKING!

when you compare like things like ggg's fights on hbo funded cards you would see saunders was offered as good or better purse than all his opponents. how is that a lowball? brook was the a-side and brought the money n that fight. not hard to understand. oh wait i hate ggg so none of that matters. 4 million is more than 1.5! that is essentially your argument with all context purposefully removed.

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actually your time line is off but putting that aside. the money for the brook fight came from brook. the money for the saunders fight came from hbo's pursestrings. there was not 4 million to give to saunders and even implying that makes you lack all credibility. you do realize ggg had to travel to fight brook in the uk right? the saunders fight would have taken place on normal hbo. where is the 4 million to pay saunders coming from? no ggg opponent had made more than 1.5 before that and that was what saunders was offered. you love making things up don't you and doing your false equivalency dance. brook and saunders are the same derp derp! cept they aren't. brook was a huge star. hence more money. you failed.

going back to the original timeine where you were wrong. saunders was offered the fight in january 2016. the brook fight was in september. after saunders turned it down ggg fought wade not saunders. wade made 500k so ggg was wiling to pay saunders 3 times more. ggg was willing to pay saunders as much as lemiuex had just earned for a ppv fight and lemiuex had been on american tv more than saunders. saunders literally said this "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." once again you failed. wrong time line and the guy himself says if was great money.

nah, thats bullshlt... there was plenty of money in the pot

you fill in the blanks...

they were willing to split the pot more fairly with Kell Brook, because they wanted to fight K*** B****.....

... and they were not willing to split the pot fairly with Billy-Joe Saunders, because they did not want to fight B****-J** S*******

and they did the exact same thing to Danny Jacobs the first time they negotiated

offered him " Quillin-money "... and then quickly ran off to fight Wade... with no counter off, and no negotiation...

which is not how you make a fight

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nah, thats bullshlt... there was plenty of money in the pot

you fill in the blanks...

they were willing to split the pot more fairly with Kell Brook, because they wanted to fight K*** B****.....

... and they were not willing to split the pot fairly with Billy-Joe Saunders, because they did not want to fight B****-J** S*******

and they did the exact same thing to Danny Jacobs the first time they negotiated

offered him " Quillin-money "... and then quickly ran off to fight Wade... with no counter off, and no negotiation...

which is not how you make a fight

why do you just make things up? there was plenty of money in the pot...based on what? i just quoted you ggg's fights aganst lemuex and wade. the purse for lemiuex was 2 mill for ggg and 1.5 for lemiux and that was for ppv. the wade fight was 2 mill for ggg and 500k for wade. where do you get there was plenty of money in the pot from? where do you get that 1.5 million was a lowball offer? its ridiculous. even in ggg's ppv fight against jacobs ggg only made 2.5 mill and that was when ggg was far more popular so i dont really konw how you can believe ggg was making 10 million to saunders 1.5 based on those facts. based on ggg's fights then hbo was paying 3-3.5 million. how is 1.5 million a low ball?

willing to split...brook was the a-side. all the money was over there. you happily take a 50-50 split when you are the b-side and will make 5 million dollars. was that a serious post? i dont get it. ggg almost certainly offered saunders close to a 50-50 split based on the numbers that is undeniable. saunders himself says ti was life changing money. he just said he needed more to take teh risk. that is not the same as lowballing my friend. that is a fighter calculating that if ggg continues to win he can get more from him down the road. that doesnt mean the current offer isnt good. it was as good as a fighter of saunders stature and fame could get at that time. brook was a much bigger fighter than saunders. why are you doing the false equivalency thing? saunders was at best on lemiuex's level and was offered th same purse. case closed.

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why do you just make things up? there was plenty of money in the pot...based on what? i just quoted you ggg's fights aganst lemuex and wade. the purse for lemiuex was 2 mill for ggg and 1.5 for lemiux and that was for ppv. the wade fight was 2 mill for ggg and 500k for wade. where do you get there was plenty of money in the pot from? where do you get that 1.5 million was a lowball offer? its ridiculous. even in ggg's ppv fight against jacobs ggg only made 2.5 mill and that was when ggg was far more popular so i dont really konw how you can believe ggg was making 10 million to saunders 1.5 based on those facts. based on ggg's fights then hbo was paying 3-3.5 million. how is 1.5 million a low ball?

willing to split...brook was the a-side. all the money was over there. you happily take a 50-50 split when you are the b-side and will make 5 million dollars. was that a serious post? i dont get it. ggg almost certainly offered saunders close to a 50-50 split based on the numbers that is undeniable. saunders himself says ti was life changing money. he just said he needed more to take teh risk. that is not the same as lowballing my friend. that is a fighter calculating that if ggg continues to win he can get more from him down the road. that doesnt mean the current offer isnt good. it was as good as a fighter of saunders stature and fame could get at that time. brook was a much bigger fighter than saunders. why are you doing the false equivalency thing? saunders was at best on lemiuex's level and was offered th same purse. case closed.

based on the fact that you insinuating that Brook is a star is bollocks

NOBODY called Brook a star before Golovkin selected him loooool

he was almost totally unknown... he fought Porter, thats it

Eddie Hearn stated that he had never made one red cent off Kell Brook

1) no way would Brook generate more than Saunders

2) making a low-offer... with NO negotiation... and NO counter-offer... is simply NOT how you make a fight... it just doesn't happen like that

they had no interest whatsoever in fighting Saunders

and the next opportunity they had to fight Saunders, they selected Vanes... which tells the WHOLE story