Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag - Extra Edition: Mayweather as Coach, Canelo-Bivol

[Thuglife Nelo]

so much proof of what a moron fan girl you are. 1. You've had an account for barely over a yr and already posted over 12,000 times.... and have 0 rep. This shows that you have no life, love canelo (as is evidenced by your **** gobbling username) and that your posts have no substance. 2. What choice did Charlo have but to acknowledge the bulls*** franchise position? The WBC created the belt specifically to allow canelo to pretend to be champion while avoiding his mandatory. We all remember what happened last time the WBC tried to enforce a mandatory on canelo. He cried and dropped the belt. Charlo couldn't force his mandatory shot thanks to canelo and the wbc 3. The so called offer by coke head Oscar was already debunked. He never sent an offer to haymon. Ever noticed how vague Oscar is when he says...oh I sent it to someone on their team. It's straight bulls*** and an act so that ****** fans (like you) can buy into it without feeling like the Love of your life is playing you for a fool. Ol sucka for Love ass b****.

LMAO. This is where you get owned! Canelo wasn’t fighting for the WBC belt with GGG 1!

If the GGG series alone had tough negotiations with GBP vs K2 then how in the fook do you think the WBC would dissect Al Haymon trying to get GBP to a purse bid!? Lol.

The Purse Only Queen and Haymon weren’t settling for anything GBP would offer. That’s proof that Haymon rather go all out losing his cub and taking his 10% off a purse bid. Haymon knew GBP wouldn’t go to purse bid.

Haymon must of felt like a betch when the WBC favored GBP business and not cause another fiasco with Canelo. That’s the sole reason why the Franchise Champ status was made, to show that the WBC wants to brand its organization with the cash cow of the sport.

Besides, Charlo ducked offers. It’s apparent he doesn’t want multi million dollar purses. There’s a sea of PBc fighters at 168. Jermall Charlo ain’t about that life. Bring Brandon Adams trilogy to a PBC Lean venue near you!

[Afi23]

I do like Plant but Breadman really loves him. I can't wait to see Plant in a unification fight.

[Jab jab boom]

LMAO. This is where you get owned! Canelo wasn’t fighting for the WBC belt with GGG 1!

If the GGG series alone had tough negotiations with GBP vs K2 then how in the fook do you think the WBC would dissect Al Haymon trying to get GBP to a purse bid!? Lol.

The Purse Only Queen and Haymon weren’t settling for anything GBP would offer. That’s proof that Haymon rather go all out losing his cub and taking his 10% off a purse bid. Haymon knew GBP wouldn’t go to purse bid.

Haymon must of felt like a betch when the WBC favored GBP business and not cause another fiasco with Canelo. That’s the sole reason why the Franchise Champ status was made, to show that the WBC wants to brand its organization with the cash cow of the sport.

Besides, Charlo ducked offers. It’s apparent he doesn’t want multi million dollar purses. There’s a sea of PBc fighters at 168. Jermall Charlo ain’t about that life. Bring Brandon Adams trilogy to a PBC Lean venue near you!

yeah canelo didn't fight for the WBC belt in the first fight because his v@gina was still sore from when they tried to enforce ggg as his mandatory a year and a half earlier. And that's the very reason why they created the franchise belt for the next to around. They were scared to enforce Charlo as his mandatory because they knew he wasn't going to fight him. So they appeased him with a made up title. That's the only reason why the franchise title was created. To allow his cry baby ass to not face his mandatory without stripping him entirely if a WBC belt. Everything else you wrote are all lame excuses.

[Jab jab boom]

I know what the question was I know how to read, if you read breads response then you’ll see he answered it in that way... he said “best legacy defining fights that can be made right now....” so is that fight Andrade vs charlo... “legacy defining” to you? That’s what I disagree with not that it isn’t a good fight. And who even spoke about canelo? You love to hate that man, no one even spoke about him lol... so, why don’t they fight though? Winner gets canelo... but them ******* won’t do it...

he said legacy defining but also said best and most important fights that can be made. Every fight he mentioned may not fall into each of those categories but Andrade vs Charlo is one of the best and most important fights that can be made. But to play along as far as legacy,....so if one of those 2 unified at mw, that wouldn't be defining their own legacy as boxers? It won't be a historical boxing legacy but it would be for their own personal legacies in the sport to be unified mw champion.

And don't front, you know that you specifically mentioned Charlo and Andrade because of their connection to canelo. You didn't mention any of the other 5 fights like Taylor vs Ramirez as it relates to legacy or Loma vs Lopez. You specifically mentioned Andrade and Charlo ...why? Because they're 2 of the guys fans have been saying canelo should've fought by now, so your defense is to demean them as guys who have accomplished "s*** in Boxing" as you said.

[Thuglife Nelo]

yeah canelo didn't fight for the WBC belt in the first fight because his v@gina was still sore from when they tried to enforce ggg as his mandatory a year and a half earlier. And that's the very reason why they created the franchise belt for the next to around. They were scared to enforce Charlo as his mandatory because they knew he wasn't going to fight him. So they appeased him with a made up title. That's the only reason why the franchise title was created. To allow his cry baby ass to not face his mandatory without stripping him entirely if a WBC belt. Everything else you wrote are all lame excuses.

but but the IBF and WBA doe...

Haymon jerkin off to a purse bid with GBP lol..

[Oregonian]

One thing I can't stand about Tyson doubters is they forget his disadvantage in height that he managed (thanks to D'amato, Atlas and Rooney) to turn into an advantage.

IMO, the prime Tyson was pre-88. The real precocious and awe-inspiring displays came against his run-up to Berbick.

That duck and body shot against Johnson was pure poetry in motion.
The way Tyson not only overcame his height disadvantage but also became a keen student and tried to emulate Jack Dempsey speaks to his greatness as well.

We all know that if a Witherspoon, Tommy Morrison, Foreman, Holyfield or Lewis tangled with the pre-1990 version of Tyson then the odds would have been stacked against them.

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Truer words have never been spoken.
I keep reminding people that Tyson is/was barely 5”11 when he was dropping giants.
I too was skeptical after Buster and Holyfield. I didn’t really have a good grasp of boxing then but man! Tyson with the height disadvantage was still a beast. He had power in both hands and his head movement incredibly light years ahead of any HW.

[Robi13]

he said legacy defining but also said best and most important fights that can be made. Every fight he mentioned may not fall into each of those categories but Andrade vs Charlo is one of the best and most important fights that can be made. But to play along as far as legacy,....so if one of those 2 unified at mw, that wouldn't be defining their own legacy as boxers? It won't be a historical boxing legacy but it would be for their own personal legacies in the sport to be unified mw champion.

And don't front, you know that you specifically mentioned Charlo and Andrade because of their connection to canelo. You didn't mention any of the other 5 fights like Taylor vs Ramirez as it relates to legacy or Loma vs Lopez. You specifically mentioned Andrade and Charlo ...why? Because they're 2 of the guys fans have been saying canelo should've fought by now, so your defense is to demean them as guys who have accomplished "s*** in Boxing" as you said.

So you agree with me, and yeah I mentioned them only not because of canelo... first of all canelo isn’t even campaigning at 60 at the moment it is said his next fight is Saunders at 68 and then ggg at 60 so... what the phuck do I got to “front” about. I don’t front sh.it just speaking facts those two need to fight each other to start a legacy of their own and then earn the golden ticket to fight canelo... but like I said, those puss.ies won’t fight each other. I agree it’s a good fight, but regardless either of those two fighters won’t beat canelo anyway so... they might as well fight each other and make that payday and winner has a shot at getting canelo. I stand by what I said, to make those two fighting each other as top 5 most important legacy defining fights that can be made is not accurate... and if you think it is then you’re an idiot too

[Oregonian]

Floyd will be a horrible trainer, the way he is a horrible promoter... Because he's an egotistic selfish prikk who can't stand not being in the spolight and getting all the attention. Money talks, but he don't listen.

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Agree 💯.
Floyd is probably the best student of the sport. He always comes prepared and is probably the most conditioned boxer ever. I have never seen Floyd get tired. Ever. He fights the 12 round like it was the first round.

I think Floyd can’t express his points well. He can see it but just can’t really articulate why he sees what he sees.

Think of it this way; Malignaggi is the best boxer turned analyst. Way better than Floyd or anyone for that matter when it comes to calling fights BUT no where remotely close to the skills of Floyd.

It’s one of those old adage of “those who can’t do, teach” proverbs.
Malignaggi can teach. Floyd cannot.

[Robi13]

Anyone who thinks a cash cow star of boxing will ever entertain a purse bid is a ******** fool

[aboutfkntime]

I saw the same in Moreno, and expected bigger things... a little disappointing how his career is a mixed bag

the last paragraph is GOLD !

Floyd will have to come to grips with that. He’s a savant. He may have done things instinctually that he can’t explain in words. If he finds a way to explain why he did certain things, then look out. He’s going to produce some great fighters. But he’s going to have to have PATIENCE with his fighters and understand most likely they won’t be as GIFTED as he is.

the key to next-level training is mentoring

Tyson and Cus would sit down and watch old fights, breaking them down... the things you learn from those discussions cannot be taught in the gym

I do not believe that fighters are as well-rounded today as they were in the 80's... too many mitt-men, not enough mentors... we have world champions that cannot fight off the back foot