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  • BoloShot
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    The heavyweight champion with the most knockouts ever is...

    Primo bloody Carnera. Someone needs to come along and break that record. Bring Old George back to rattle off 5 KOs against old ass bums?
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    Randomly... who has the least Corbett maybe? Just based on him only having like 20 fights.
    Edit: Forgot about this guy.
    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/5642

    I think it’s unlikely that record is broken anytime soon tbh. Shannon Briggs mustn’t be too far away. He definitely has 50+.
    Last edited by RJJ-94-02=GOAT; 04-12-2020, 06:27 PM.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      Thinking about it... Foreman would have obliterated that record if it wasn’t for the 10 year hiatus.

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      • Marchegiano
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        There are two who I feel should qualify as champions but are not often cited as such and so would be overlooked or discounted by most fans.

        First, Peter Maher won the title fair and square. I'm not saying Corbett didn't have the right to strip him, but I do not see why Corbett being champion before and after him is such a difficult concept to accept.....there was a time Corbett retired unbeaten, that time is not reflected in Jim's reign at all. If it was, Peter Maher would be considered a champion and Peter Maher has over a 100 KOs.

        Next, Sam Langford. The five time colored HW champion was also crowned world HW champion by the National Sporting Club...literally the most prestigious body of all time with direct roots to the Pugilistic Society of 1814....today they are the WBC and BBBoC. Also, he's a Police Gazette champion which is like Ring before Ring. Most Ring champions gets counted...granted most of them have sanctioning belts but usually when they don't people still call them a champion.

        If there was ever an alternative champion during the era when we like to pretend there are only one champion per division, it's Langford. If the situation was more present people would consider him a champion....he also has over a hundred.




        So you've one guy who is a legitimate winner of the lineal title and another guy who was a champion but isn't recognized so that we can perpetuate a lie about there having ever been any eras with no alternative champions.

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          I doubt this record ever gets beat. Back then they fought once a month, now they fight twice a year.

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          • QueensburyRules
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            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            There are two who I feel should qualify as champions but are not often cited as such and so would be overlooked or discounted by most fans.

            First, Peter Maher won the title fair and square. I'm not saying Corbett didn't have the right to strip him, but I do not see why Corbett being champion before and after him is such a difficult concept to accept.....there was a time Corbett retired unbeaten, that time is not reflected in Jim's reign at all. If it was, Peter Maher would be considered a champion and Peter Maher has over a 100 KOs.

            Next, Sam Langford. The five time colored HW champion was also crowned world HW champion by the National Sporting Club...literally the most prestigious body of all time with direct roots to the Pugilistic Society of 1814....today they are the WBC and BBBoC. Also, he's a Police Gazette champion which is like Ring before Ring. Most Ring champions gets counted...granted most of them have sanctioning belts but usually when they don't people still call them a champion.

            If there was ever an alternative champion during the era when we like to pretend there are only one champion per division, it's Langford. If the situation was more present people would consider him a champion....he also has over a hundred.




            So you've one guy who is a legitimate winner of the lineal title and another guy who was a champion but isn't recognized so that we can perpetuate a lie about there having ever been any eras with no alternative champions.
            - - Where are the Police Gazette archives?

            Sam won the French heavy world title in a classic that has oodles more gravitas than the bogus Cali middle title bleating sheep always claim as Henry Armstrong being robbed.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #7
              Wladimir Kiltschko has a lot of knock-outs.

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              • Marchegiano
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                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - - Where are the Police Gazette archives?

                Sam won the French heavy world title in a classic that has oodles more gravitas than the bogus Cali middle title bleating sheep always claim as Henry Armstrong being robbed.
                They sell old versions on their website, or at least used to, but usually if I'm looking for a PG edition I search for it specifically. Usually just Police Gazette and a date.....I use both Bing and Google, sometimes duckduckgo. Archive has loads for free. I have quite a few articles and such myself I could share somewhere.

                The PG does respond! And quickly too. Ring responds kind of format to not at all, they have a thank you for your interest how about buying this kinda deal going on where as PG, if you send them a question they just send you an answer. That's pretty cool.

                I asked them most recently if they have any interest in crowning boxing champions again. They said no, they're happy with BK as gloved boxing is what squeezed them out and gave birth to Ring over Gazette. Which is interesting given early ring is a bunch of plagiarized Gazette. Hell, Nat's books, Black Dynamite, are really just reprints of Fox's Life n Times of Famous Black Pugilists.


                Anyway, random searches will yield more than you'd think actually.


                Far as Armstrong, I'm a bit confused, but yeah, I give no ****s about California....they've a real ****ty boxing history.

                It's interesting folks say he was robbed...of what? a tricket title? in the 1940s did Cali matter yet at all? Correct me if I'm wrong but the big dog in the 40s was the NBA, then the NYSAC, then IBU until the IBU is taken by the ****s, then the BBBoC and/or FFB.

                I don't even know where Cali falls in....I think to call a 1940s Cali "world" title equal to the present IBO is kinda harsh on the IBO.

                I could be wrong but in a nutshell:

                Boxers go to Cal during the illegal era to avoid the lawmen of East America. In Cali they find no law but rather large gangs running the government.

                From there they go into fixed fights

                Then they decide to crack down and be a real government, decade long era of the four rounder

                Then they tried to be a real commission but no one gave any ****s about a CSAC belt.

                Then sanctioning bodies took over and Cali became just another state some boxing happens in sometimes.

                There isn't a whole lot of history to get excited over in Cali, from a governance perspective anyway. I don't mean to talk **** about fighters from Cali.

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