ken Norton is bigger name than all todays heavyweights

[TonyGe]

I am sure than the huge majority of boxing fans today have no idea who was Ken Norton. That was the guy that defeated Ali and gave him 2 another tough fights and also gave a very tough fight to Larry Holmes. Well, he was badly stopped by Shavers and Foreman, but still, he beat Ali.

Tyson Fury beat Klitschko, that is very good, but nowhere near beating 30 or 31 old Ali. Wilder has no good win at all, Joshua beat semi retired Klitschko.

It is obvious that Ken Norton is bigger than all active guys. What is your opinion, did you watch fights i mentioned?

Styles make fights. Ken had a style that gave Ali fits. I thought Norton got screwed by the judges. Haven't seen them again since they were first aired but that's my take away.

[meat_abstract]

I've never gotten whole idea that Norton had "nerves" against big punchers. He just didn't have a good chin, and IMO his whole style was built around that fact. He had great defense and countered before the other guy could get a combination off. But against huge punchers (Foreman, Shavers, Cooney) it only took one punch to stagger him, and his defense collapsed. But against guys like Ali, who couldn't hurt him too bad with one punch, his style was very effective. His only other weakness was that, being a counter-puncher, he could get outworked or at least give the appearance of getting outworked since he was always waiting for the other guy to go first.

Against today's heavies: Wilder would probably KO him, just like Shavers did. Joshua would have a harder time, and would have to hope he caught him clean with something big before eating too many counters - pretty even fight. Fury would really struggle - it's a style nightmare for him, just like it was for Ali. Can't KO him, can't get him off you, blocks & counters everything... he's have to try to stay outside and jab his way to victory like Holmes did. Holmes said Norton was the hardest fight of his career.

[Earl-Hickey]

Fixed it for you

Had Wilder not ducked AJ I'm fairly convinced AJ would have slept him early.

Not saying AJ can beat Fury necessary but I don't rate the wilder win that high for Fury, Wilder was an accident waiting to happen and 50 year old Ortiz was a clean punch from causing it

[LacedUp]

Wtf would you know about Ken Norton other than he’s black and American (the two things you despise)? A few months ago you admitted you had no idea who Antonio Cervantes was.

What does knowing Cervantes have to do with knowing Norton?

Strange, weird fallacy.

[MartinC]

Norton was a legendary fighter. Unfortunately he fought in the same era as Foreman and Shavers. Two of the greatest punchers ever.

[PRINCEKOOL]

For the simple fact that Ken Norton was a top heavyweight, during a time in history when? Boxing was probably still the worlds most popular sport 'When Giants walked the face of the earth' Historically in 100's of years time 'Due to the legend of that era, Ken Norton's legacy will most likely carry more weight than most of the heavyweights active today 'Whether they can beat him or not etc'

[Boxing>MMA]

Lol 215 lbs 6ft3. He would get manhandled by Fury, Joshua and even Wilder would ko him. Sports evolve and even tho their boxing looked sharper and more esthetic back in the day, modern day boxers would dominate most of the time H2H.

[TheMyspaceDayz]

I've never gotten whole idea that Norton had "nerves" against big punchers. He just didn't have a good chin, and IMO his whole style was built around that fact. He had great defense and countered before the other guy could get a combination off. But against huge punchers (Foreman, Shavers, Cooney) it only took one punch to stagger him, and his defense collapsed. But against guys like Ali, who couldn't hurt him too bad with one punch, his style was very effective. His only other weakness was that, being a counter-puncher, he could get outworked or at least give the appearance of getting outworked since he was always waiting for the other guy to go first.

Against today's heavies: Wilder would probably KO him, just like Shavers did. Joshua would have a harder time, and would have to hope he caught him clean with something big before eating too many counters - pretty even fight. Fury would really struggle - it's a style nightmare for him, just like it was for Ali. Can't KO him, can't get him off you, blocks & counters everything... he's have to try to stay outside and jab his way to victory like Holmes did. Holmes said Norton was the hardest fight of his career.

This is exactly how I view Norton and how I figure he’d fair against today’s crop. Impressive. If you are capable of providing the same sort of in-depth analysis for every single active fighter then you’re approaching my level.

[BangEM]

Ken Norton got destroyed by every puncher he faced.

No chance.

[just the facts]

What does knowing Cervantes have to do with knowing Norton?

Strange, weird fallacy.

My point was that that poster (Madison Boxing) likes to come across like some boxing expert. He gave a totally ignorant post about Ken Norton. My point is that if you don't even know who Cervantes was, you can't really know anything about Norton. Both of them fought at relatively the same time. That poster (Madison Boxing) is a racist scum bag with an Anti American agenda.