Wallin >>> wilder???

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • DaNeutral.
    Undisputed Champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Aug 2018
    • 10087
    • 1,665
    • 342
    • 144,794

    #1

    Wallin >>> wilder???

    Just wondering? Both have zero titles, both have very little in way of wins over top 10 opposition and they have both only faced 1 real top fighter.

    Both have lost to Tyson Fury but there is some strong arguments that Fury should of lost to Wallin considering the state of that cut, Wallin clearly took a couple of rounds off Fury too. On the other hand Wilder got completely dominated, couldn't win a round, wasn't the least bit competitive and got stopped by a so called feather fist.

    Now if we want to detract from Anthony Joshua after his loss to Ruiz, even though nobody else has beaten Ruiz, nobody else has floored Ruiz and even though Joshua cruised to victory in a rematch it doesn't seem to be taken in to account then why do we pretend that Wilder only lost cuz he's fighting the divisions number 1 and ignore the fact he looked like a useless club fighter and fighters deemed lower ranked managed to put up a better fight than he did.

    So maybe Wallin needs to be raised up in the rankings, nobody else has ever beaten him, or Wilder needs to be dropped below where Wallin is.
  • kingstip9
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2011
    • 2095
    • 488
    • 63
    • 32,854

    #2
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Just wondering? Both have zero titles, both have very little in way of wins over top 10 opposition and they have both only faced 1 real top fighter.

    Both have lost to Tyson Fury but there is some strong arguments that Fury should of lost to Wallin considering the state of that cut, Wallin clearly took a couple of rounds off Fury too. On the other hand Wilder got completely dominated, couldn't win a round, wasn't the least bit competitive and got stopped by a so called feather fist.

    Now if we want to detract from Anthony Joshua after his loss to Ruiz, even though nobody else has beaten Ruiz, nobody else has floored Ruiz and even though Joshua cruised to victory in a rematch it doesn't seem to be taken in to account then why do we pretend that Wilder only lost cuz he's fighting the divisions number 1 and ignore the fact he looked like a useless club fighter and fighters deemed lower ranked managed to put up a better fight than he did.

    So maybe Wallin needs to be raised up in the rankings, nobody else has ever beaten him, or Wilder needs to be dropped below where Wallin is.
    Fury has a habit of lowering his standard when he fights lower level competition.

    Fury trained like a demon in the rematch, and even surprised himself at how easy the fight was.

    Wallin would get knocked unconscious against wilder in under three rounds.

    So no, I don’t think they are “close together” in ranking.

    I think that Wallin will never win a title. And after a loss against a contender, he will slip down the rankings and then vanish

    Comment

    • DaNeutral.
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Aug 2018
      • 10087
      • 1,665
      • 342
      • 144,794

      #3
      Yeah it's Wallin over wilder. I'd like to see Wallin v Wilder.

      Comment

      • Ca$ual Fan
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Mar 2019
        • 2063
        • 51
        • 10
        • 41,406

        #4
        Based on common opponents, seems like it

        Comment

        • Madison Boxing
          Banned
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Jul 2015
          • 35364
          • 6,455
          • 3,367
          • 190,590

          #5
          At this stage I'd favour wallin and I don't know if that's a winnable or sensible fight for wilder to take. He's best off fighting kownacki in a crossroads match, see what he's got left and then after that we can start looking at putting him in with likes of Charles Martin and helenius but really wilder is damaged goods now, he's mentally broken and I'm not sure he can be built up again. He could probably beat Luis ortiz again but that's about it really, if you put him in with anyone in the top 5 he's getting taken out, and he's getting taken out quick.

          Comment

          • RuleOfTheSpear
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2018
            • 3555
            • 493
            • 311
            • 53,043

            #6
            Styles varies fights.

            Comment

            • Nash out
              BoxingScene Hall of Fame
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Nov 2018
              • 6125
              • 2,238
              • 1,851
              • 19,416

              #7
              I'd take Wilder to destroy Wallin. I think Wilder fears no man, except Tyson Fury. I'd like to see Wallin fight someone like Helenius, maybe, see if he can win a fight like that before stepping up again. As others have mentioned, Fury does have a habit of not being close to his best against lower opposition, and add in fighting through a horrific cut for 75% of the fight, we were hardly going to get Fury at his best there. That being said, Wallin seems to have something about him.

              Comment

              • ShoulderRoll
                Join The Great Resist
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 56325
                • 10,185
                • 5,035
                • 763,445

                #8
                Wallin didn't have to face the Kronk version of Tyson Fury.

                SugarHill Steward and Andy Lee installed some upgrades into Fury's style.


                Comment

                • EDDIE SPERM
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Aug 2019
                  • 1077
                  • 81
                  • 163
                  • 78,383

                  #9
                  Wallin deserves a rematch against Fury !

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  TOP