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  • #21
    Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!. View Post
    It simple.

    If a boxing event and ufc event makes the same money, but their fighters aren't compensated the same then who is getting that money.

    all thing relatives say a boxer makes 1.5 million but the UFC counterpart makes 200,000 where did that 1.3 million go?

    It goes into Dana white and the other owners pockets. UFC never cared about it fighters or people who make that sport and it was clear when they banned sponsorship and took side money out of everyone pockets and put it into their own pockets at the expense of their talent/trainers etc.
    Boxers fight for themselves, UFC fighters fight for the brand AND company. The UFC has a larger middle class so overall maybe their fighters are paid more 'But at the top of their sport? Boxers make more money in comparison'.

    Boxing should never be run like the UFC, people who pine over the UFC's business models need to understand 'That boxing has never been run that way, as it is still the worlds most inclusive combat sport'.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Boxers fight for themselves, UFC fighters fight for the brand AND company. The UFC has a larger middle class so overall maybe their fighters are paid more 'But at the top of their sport? Boxers make more money in comparison'.

      Boxing should never be run like the UFC, people who pine over the UFC's business models need to understand 'That boxing has never been run that way, as it is still the worlds most inclusive combat sport'.
      yup, and im sure UFC fighters want UFC to be more like boxing at least the top figthers do, they earn it instead of some type of socialist wealth distribution model UFC has.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!. View Post
        yup, and im sure UFC fighters want UFC to be more like boxing at least the top figthers do, they earn it instead of some type of socialist wealth distribution model UFC has.
        Boxing has no nucleus, the business model makes it almost omnipresent. There are draw backs to the way boxing is run, as the BOXERS can become bigger than the sport/brand 'And acquire immense political power within the sport' Floyd Mayweather was the last fighter to achieve such a status.

        There is a larger middle class in the UFC, because the people who run the sport understand? That they need fighters to constantly keep business moving 'Jorge Masvidal went to the UFC because as a novice he was getting paid more, but now that he is at the top of his sport? Boxers at the same level maybe even just below him are making more money'.

        The Sky is the limit in boxing 'Long before Amir Khan was world champion, he was most likely making more money than 60% of the UFC'.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-10-2020, 12:00 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
          Boxing has no nucleus, the business model makes it almost omnipresent. There are draw backs to the way boxing is run, as the BOXERS can become bigger than the sport/brand 'And acquire immense political power within the sport' Floyd Mayweather was the last fighter to achieve such a status.

          There is a larger middle class in the UFC, because the people who run the sport understand? That they need fighters to constantly keep business moving 'Jorge Masvidal went to the UFC because as a novice he was getting paid more, but now that he is at the top of his sport? Boxers at the same level maybe even just below him are making more money'.

          The Sky is the limit in boxing 'Long before Amir Khan was world champion, he was most likely making more money than 60% of the UFC'.
          exactly how it is.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post
            Maybe in a few years down the road athletes thinking of getting into one or the other will see that there will be no UFC pay increase. Welcome to boxing.
            Most Americans who go into mma are from the subburbs and there just isn’t an interest in boxing from subburban kids. Boxing has and will always be a lower class poor kids game

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
              It always come down to money. If promoters were there or not the The sanctioning bodies are rigged because of money. If they have a high profile Mexican boxer or whatever if they fight in a close fight they always get the edge or they will rigg his mandatories so he will not face legit opponents or in canelo’s case let him do what ever he wants.

              What I am saying is. I like the UFC business plan and organization because it’s better for the “fans”. UFC always puts on good cards in boxing that rarely happens. They never put the fans first. We never gotten to see Adonis and Kovalov , Ward vs Adonis, Juan Vs Gamboa (prime) , undefeated Wildier vs Undefeated Joshua , and so on and so one. Yes it’s mainly about the networks and promoters but deep down too the root of the problem is money. Who’s getting what profit and the cut. I will stay this UFC is robbbing the fighters but the fans are happy. We will never see prime Crawford verses any prime PBC fighter until 2-3 years from now due to greed and money.

              In to also put it perspective I put my life on the line for YOU as a soldier! When will you send me a check ? Soldiers get paid like **** and treated like **** but when it’s time for war we gotta go not you. Guess what that’s what I signed up for . Just like those UFC fighters. If they don’t like it they can walk. They are not ****** like in Ancient Rome. They can start a UNION if they wanted. Fighters run the company if they are smart. That’s why I love Floyd.
              Everything you typed is caused by promoters. Sanctioning bodies cannot stop a fighter from excepting a fight against the best, promoters do. Crawford wont fight Spence, because of promoters. Money the actual boxer earns has nothing to do with it because the boxer will get paid no matter what, it's the promoters that stop these fights from happening.

              While I appreciate and respect your decision to join the military, do not disrespect me and try to insinuate that you are fighting for me. Where were you when I got shot? Where were you when I got stabbed? Where were you when I watched friends get murdered? Where were you when I got beaten by a group of police? Quite frankly one of the most self serving things I've heard anyone say on these forums. And by the way it was a waste of an argument. No one sends UFC fighters checks, and no one roots for the government to not pay members of the military. The comparison falls apart especially when you consider, I pay my taxes. Just like you said if UFC fighters were unhappy they could leave, well no one forced you to join the military.

              As I said before, it seems to me that you're ok with the person who doesnt put their life on the line pocketing the money, as long as you're entertained. Well that's not me. UFC fighters need to get paid more, and promoters power in boxing needs to be reduced. The money should continue to rise for all combat sports, for the fighters.

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              • #27
                [QUOTE=KnickTillDeaTh;20508000]Everything you typed is caused by promoters. Sanctioning bodies cannot stop a fighter from excepting a fight against the best, promoters do. Crawford wont fight Spence, because of promoters. Money the actual boxer earns has nothing to do with it because the boxer will get paid no matter what, it's the promoters that stop these fights from happening.

                While I appreciate and respect your decision to join the military, do not disrespect me and try to insinuate that you are fighting for me. Where were you when I got shot? Where were you when I got stabbed? Where were you when I watched friends get murdered? Where were you when I got beaten by a group of police? Quite frankly one of the most self serving things I've heard anyone say on these forums. And by the way it was a waste of an argument. No one sends UFC fighters checks, and no one roots for the government to not pay members of the military. The comparison falls apart especially when you consider, I pay my taxes. Just like you said if UFC fighters were unhappy they could leave, well no one forced you to join the military.

                As I said before, it seems to me that you're ok with the person who doesnt put their life on the line pocketing the money, as long as you're entertained. Well that's not me. UFC fighters need to get paid more, and promoters power in boxing needs to be reduced. The money should continue to rise for all combat sports, for the fighters.[/QUOTE

                Nobody forced me to join the army like nobody forced anybody to fight for a living.

                So you were there when my brother got killed in Afghanistan? You sound ****ing nuts you saying you will have freedom with out the American army ? You being shot nothing to do with American freedom. However we do help out with the justice system that helps put criminals away. I know you probably called the cops to report the crime which I am in. I am in law enforcement. I can’t be everyone but there’s brothers in arms everywhere that puts their life on the line for you in this country. You gotta look around. That nurse helped you. That EMT helped you. I bet you didn’t send one thank you card.

                As for the cops beating you up. I am not lie it seems like you are Either a unlucky victim or a criminal. Getting shot , slabbed and beaten up by the cops is not normal behavior. I am not going to lie lol.

                I lived in the projects for 10 years not once this happen to me. So no I wouldn’t help you out in those cases.

                At the end of the day. I am a fan first. If you don’t like the system don’t do the sport. Half of these athletes are paid way too much for what they actually do. Specially like people like broner and khan.
                Last edited by Removed Now; 04-10-2020, 04:48 PM.

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                • #28
                  Tyson is a traitor. Threw the sport that made him under the bus and started blowing Dana White and the UFC, giving them happy endings at will. All for a couple of bucks because dummy is still broke.

                  He doesn't even watch or talk about boxing anymore. But he'll go to MMA events to blow them every chance he gets. Why do boxing fans still like this traitor?

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                  • #29
                    [QUOTE=JcLazyX210;20508241]
                    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
                    Everything you typed is caused by promoters. Sanctioning bodies cannot stop a fighter from excepting a fight against the best, promoters do. Crawford wont fight Spence, because of promoters. Money the actual boxer earns has nothing to do with it because the boxer will get paid no matter what, it's the promoters that stop these fights from happening.

                    While I appreciate and respect your decision to join the military, do not disrespect me and try to insinuate that you are fighting for me. Where were you when I got shot? Where were you when I got stabbed? Where were you when I watched friends get murdered? Where were you when I got beaten by a group of police? Quite frankly one of the most self serving things I've heard anyone say on these forums. And by the way it was a waste of an argument. No one sends UFC fighters checks, and no one roots for the government to not pay members of the military. The comparison falls apart especially when you consider, I pay my taxes. Just like you said if UFC fighters were unhappy they could leave, well no one forced you to join the military.

                    As I said before, it seems to me that you're ok with the person who doesnt put their life on the line pocketing the money, as long as you're entertained. Well that's not me. UFC fighters need to get paid more, and promoters power in boxing needs to be reduced. The money should continue to rise for all combat sports, for the fighters.[/QUOTE

                    Nobody forced me to join the army like nobody forced anybody to fight for a living.

                    So you were there when my brother got killed in Afghanistan? You sound ****ing nuts you saying you will have freedom with out the American army ? You being shot nothing to do with American freedom. However we do help out with the justice system that helps put criminals away. I know you probably called the cops to report the crime which I am in. I am in law enforcement. I can’t be everyone but there’s brothers in arms everywhere that puts their life on the line for you in this country. You gotta look around. That nurse helped you. That EMT helped you. I bet you didn’t send one thank you card.

                    As for the cops beating you up. I am not lie it seems like you are Either a unlucky victim or a criminal. Getting shot , slabbed and beaten up by the cops is not normal behavior. I am not going to lie lol.

                    I lived in the projects for 10 years not once this happen to me. So no I wouldn’t help you out in those cases.

                    At the end of the day. I am a fan first. If you don’t like the system don’t do the sport. Half of these athletes are paid way too much for what they actually do. Specially like people like broner and khan.
                    Your assumption is incorrect and ill formed. You lack understanding of the world and people like you are why respect of others are down the drain. If you cant understand how someone could go through things in life then it's best to keep your mouth shut because you sound like an idiot. Was Rodney king a criminal? Countless people who have been beaten by cops were not criminals, and victims are those who cant do for themselves. You need to thank god that you didnt live what I lived through, because I didnt get to chose my war. You can only envision one type of war because you know little about the reality of life, you lack the ability to comprehend the wars that exist that are not fought by the military. You and your brother have done nothing for me. You need to learn humility, because your hubris says more about you than you think. Do not forget, you're the one who made this personal. Your example of the military was non sensible and had no bearing.

                    Now do me a favor and do not respond, work on humility because true heroes walk among us without the need to be known, with out the need to be thanked. Yet still they strive. You sir are no hero, and you've done nothing for me. I will not respond to you again.

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                    • #30
                      [QUOTE=KnickTillDeaTh;20508380]
                      Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post

                      Your assumption is incorrect and ill formed. You lack understanding of the world and people like you are why respect of others are down the drain. If you cant understand how someone could go through things in life then it's best to keep your mouth shut because you sound like an idiot. Was Rodney king a criminal? Countless people who have been beaten by cops were not criminals, and victims are those who cant do for themselves. You need to thank god that you didnt live what I lived through, because I didnt get to chose my war. You can only envision one type of war because you know little about the reality of life, you lack the ability to comprehend the wars that exist that are not fought by the military. You and your brother have done nothing for me. You need to learn humility, because your hubris says more about you than you think. Do not forget, you're the one who made this personal. Your example of the military was non sensible and had no bearing.

                      Now do me a favor and do not respond, work on humility because true heroes walk among us without the need to be known, with out the need to be thanked. Yet still they strive. You sir are no hero, and you've done nothing for me. I will not respond to you again.

                      Nahh. See. I am African American. I stopped right there. Rodney high was a criminal. And had priors. Try using somebody like emit till to back your statement. The mother ****er was on high on crack but that doesn’t excuse what they did to him.

                      You gotta be some hood rat from the West coast to bring up that bs.

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