Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer: I Promise, Golovkin is Getting Knocked Out!

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may 2015- Sulaiman: Cotto-Canelo Winner Must Face Golovkin


jul 2, 2015 Cotto-Canelo set for November:.


july 2015- (ward-ggg)"they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016" -roc nation president

ummm ok buddy not paying attention to current events i guess!

also ward/roc nations comments reveal how full of sh-it they are. they claimed that they didnt know ggg had already signed to fight lemiuex ...yet if they didnt know that why didnt they offer to fight him in 2015????? why did they only want to fight him at the same exact time the canelo fight was supposed to take place! how can anyone believe this crap!

[Lance98]

GGG is a shot fighter. He is definitely getting ko'ed. I am not thrilled about the trilogy, but if it's ggg's retirement fight, then hopefully it's the last we heard about canelo/ggg fighting.

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GGG is a shot fighter. He is definitely getting ko'ed. I am not thrilled about the trilogy, but if it's ggg's retirement fight, then hopefully it's the last we heard about canelo/ggg fighting.

hold up there buddy, ward just sent an offer to fight ggg on the same day will lil g accept it? omg ward had no idea that fight was in the works no idea at all its not like he follows boxing or anything. whats next ward sends an offer to fight floyd on teh same day as floyd pac 2? lil floyd ducking!

[aboutfkntime]

and when was the ward fight possible exactly? you do know ward rejected the fight first and tried to figth dmitri sartison right(shortly after the pavlik-ward laughable fight was canelled)? thats well documented. go look it up. you do know roc nations offer years later was for ggg to postpone the canelo fight for a year and sign to fight ward right? this wasnt a one fight lets fight right now type of deal. did you knw that? go look it up. "he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016(same exact time ggg was supposed to be be fightin canelo-cotto winner as said by the wbc derppp). So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016."

timeline check!

Sulaiman: Cotto-Canelo Winner Must Face Golovkin
May 15, 2015

wards offer was made in july 2015

proof he wanted ggg to postpone that fight and fight him instead. its oh so easy to make offers that you know won't be accepted isnt it?

now do you think thats a smart thing to do? im trying to put pressure on boxings biggest star to fight me but yeah ill lock myself up for a year so that it cant possibly happen. very smart decision that would have been. why didnt ward just offer to fight ggg right then? thats how fights usually work right? truth is ward hadnt fought at 168 in years when he made the offer and had no intention of going back. he knew it would be rejected because he knew ggg was waiting on canelo. thats why he didnt offer him a one fight deal. it might have been accepted. then he ran to the media screaming duck hoping people woulldnt look into it and unfortunately it worked at least somewhat.

you had people at the time saying ggg ducked ward to fight lemiuex! even though in roc nations own words the lemiuex fight was fine, they just wanted ggg to preemptively postpone the canelo-cotto winner fight(once again their own words) it was absurd. obviously ward didnt want to fight ggg until a year later but the details didnt come out right away but uninformed people were ready to be fed the confirmation bias and they took off with it! iinstead of questioning wards offer and being like hey why did you want ggg to postpone the canelo fight? hey why did you need more tune ups when you just fought paul smith? hey why didn't you offer hima one fight deal? they took the bait and said lil g didn't want it! they were so uncreateive they even used wards verbiage. of course ignoring the whole bad blood that was between ward and ggg when ggg tried to fight him before and ward tried to fight sartison, which led to wards dismissal at hbo while ggg became hbo's biggest star. im sure this had nothing to do with it!

you are full-of-shlt...


"I respect Tom and he's a nice man, but as it relates to this issue - he's way off-base," Yormark told BoxingScene.com. "The chatter that you've been hearing from Triple G's camp is inappropriate, inaccurate and we need to clear this up immediately."

"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

"The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, and get in there with one of the best fighters in the world, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.' That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."

"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."



Yormark tried to make that fight for 2016

Golovkin fought Wade/Brook in 2016... NOT Canelo

[Mindgames]

Canelo Golovkin match 16 in the year 2045, "we're very excited, we promise Canelo wins by explosive knockout", this is groundhog day, dont know how anyone is excited by trilogies where one guy is not only clearly old and shot, but hes coming off a fight he probably really lost. Canelo is the old guy killer.

[vaynardevil]

Ggg is done for
Too slow

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Canelo not being available to talk tough for himself shows the sort of disinterest that leads to an upset.

[tokon]

I thought Canelo won quite decisively in the second fight
I don’t think there is any need for this third matchup but since it’s happening , I think it would put the nail on the coffin if he did ko him
Kinda of fed up from hearing both sides going at it
Hopefully that would be the end

I also thought that canelo clearly won the second fight. I don't think a third fight with Golovkin is any more interesting than other fights that are out there for Canelo, so don't quite understand why dazn have persued it so hard. Alvarez has stated on numerous occasions he wasn't interested in a third fight and just hope he's motivated enough to prepare properly.

[Opti500]

Seems Canelo team found a new safety hole where to put Clenbut in xD

[MulaKO]

I also thought that canelo clearly won the second fight. I don't think a third fight with Golovkin is any more interesting than other fights that are out there for Canelo, so don't quite understand why dazn have persued it so hard. Alvarez has stated on numerous occasions he wasn't interested in a third fight and just hope he's motivated enough to prepare properly.

Honestly I think this fight is going down for two reasons
1 Dazn has way to much money invested in both these guys , this fight whether good or not will let them save face after figuring out this was a mistake in whole
2 Canelo and his team saw GGG was pretty much done and are fed up of all the chatter , so take the , try to ko him and it’s a win win for them ( really doubt Canelo loses )
That’s my view of all this