Prime Chad Dawson vs Golovkin at 175

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  • _Rexy_
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    #21
    Originally posted by BoloShot
    Man it's hard to be a fan of Ward, I tried to but his ugly style, often boring fights and his hometown antics take him down many pegs in my book.
    I am and I’m not. His tactics were dirty and I didn’t like that, but he was still ultra skilled. His matches against Froch and Kessler were outright masterclasses

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    • BoloShot
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      #22
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      I am and I’m not. His tactics were dirty and I didn’t like that, but he was still ultra skilled. His matches against Froch and Kessler were outright masterclasses
      I appreciate his talent and grit but my lord does he represent the nastier side of how boxing matches can go. I noticed he has a knack of beating the more basic yet hardworking tough fighters like Froch and Kessler, although the Kessler fight was also in some ways egregious with his repeated Billy goat butts.

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      • sbbigmike
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        #23
        Originally posted by BoloShot
        I appreciate his talent and grit but my lord does he represent the nastier side of how boxing matches can go. I noticed he has a knack of beating the more basic yet hardworking tough fighters like Froch and Kessler, although the Kessler fight was also in some ways egregious with his repeated Billy goat butts.
        If ward has balls he'd face canelo at 175, truth is ward has faced are trash cans and unmentionable with he's faced no true elite talent, a basic fighter like kovalev showed ward maybe only good... but I'm sure ward is a realist and understands his limitations and selected his matches as such

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          #24
          Originally posted by sbbigmike
          If ward has balls he'd face canelo at 175, truth is ward has faced are trash cans and unmentionable with he's faced no true elite talent, a basic fighter like kovalev showed ward maybe only good... but I'm sure ward is a realist and understands his limitations and selected his matches as such
          I think Ward would beat Canelo pretty handily. Ward is bigger, stronger and is a spoiler, he'd find a way to negate Canelo's counters and smother his low workrate. The only person who I think would be favoured against Ward up to light-heavy is Beterbiev.

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            #25
            Originally posted by sbbigmike
            If ward has balls he'd face canelo at 175, truth is ward has faced are trash cans and unmentionable with he's faced no true elite talent, a basic fighter like kovalev showed ward maybe only good... but I'm sure ward is a realist and understands his limitations and selected his matches as such
            Sorry but Ward most definitely has a lovely resumé to boast. He beat some very good fighters, prime Kovalev was p4p #2 at the time they fought remember. Although those were both controversial, I still think Ward made a good fight anyhow and proved himself to be of a very high level. Canelo was getting totally outboxed by a Kovalev who was just there for the paycheck and not to go all out and win in their fight before his glass chin shattered again (perhaps because he kinda let it happen, having been so passive). Ward never got outboxed in a fight like that ever.

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            • The D3vil
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              #26
              Dawson is too big and good.

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                #27
                Originally posted by The D3vil
                Dawson is too big and good.



                it's a little unfair... 2 divisions is huge

                we should match G up with middleweights or even 168 lb'ers

                or, people like to down-play the 168lb version of Dawson when it comes to evaluating Ward... so make that matchup for Golovkin... or with other SMW's of the past

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                • Raf7_9
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                  #28
                  GGG has never fought above 160 but you pit him in a matchup with a guy who's career was spent at 175? Wtf?

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                  • just the facts
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    it's a little unfair... 2 divisions is huge

                    we should match G up with middleweights or even 168 lb'ers

                    or, people like to down-play the 168lb version of Dawson when it comes to evaluating Ward... so make that matchup for Golovkin... or with other SMW's of the past
                    Yeah! It's not like ggg fought fighters from two weight classes below........scratch that......nevermind

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      I am and I’m not. His tactics were dirty and I didn’t like that, but he was still ultra skilled. His matches against Froch and Kessler were outright masterclasses
                      if the masterclass is flinging poo against a wall and watching it slide down for 36 minutes. besides the first half of the froch fight that was nothing but wrestling, and holding and hitting, among other fouls. those things aren't legal. at some point we have to hold him accountable right and not just pretend he was slickly outboxing his opponents. i mean he did that against paul smith and alexander brand. well done but when the opponents got tougher just look what he did. kovalev for example. outclassed so he went full ward mode(still lost) i can see why ward would be happy he got away with that but why are people who are fans of boxing? you like the houston astros too?

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