Do You Guys Think Trainers Know Their Fighters Are On Drugs?

[Blond Beast]

Wow, this is just . . .wow.

Thanks for the insight, but what is gyno?

“Gyno” is “Gynecomastia” aka “***** tits” Sum guys just get it naturally. testosterone in ur body can be converted to estrogen and give u estrogen related side effects like the build up of female breast tissue around the nipple. Everyone is susceptible to it differently. Taking steroids can cause this, and usually an anti estrogen inhibitor is taken to counter this. I mean Frank Columbo and Ronnie Coleman both won Mr. Olympia’s with prominent Gyno showing. So if roids are so rampant in boxing I’m at least impressed that it’s not really all that obvious side effects wise. The anti estrogens are supposed to be tested for also. So if everyone is on gear they must be on anti estrogens too in my opinion, even more drugs to hide. I honestly don’t know how hokey these drug tests are or not. But I have real practical knowledge and I don’t think gear can make sum stiff a champion. But Someone who is already very proficient , and then takes gear is a hard mountain to tackle.

[Blond Beast]

Thing is those oestrogen blockers are considered masking agents and even PEDs in their own right so I guess it doesn't matter if they're taking that or steroids as they're interlinked and banned equally.

Exactly. The anti estrogens, diuretics, masking agents are all supposed to be checked for. So if some boxer is on gear I assume he’s usually on all those drugs also. Or at least taken all these drugs at sum point. They all have different detection cycles. I mean ur testosterone to epitestosterone level usually has to be below a certain ratio or ur suspected of taking peds. Sometimes u have to prove why it’s high to clear ur name. Some fighters have bumped their levels artificially right to the legal limit which was a fairly high ratio. I think that limit has since changed? But yeah if everyone’s on gear than most of them are on anti estrogens also and that’s more drugs to hide. So I don’t know how legit or effective all these drug tests are, because they sure don’t catch a lot of people. It makes sense in a scandal way because the sport/sports could be exposed, and then also without it we might not see the same level. All I know is that the guys who have no experience with the stuff claim to be experts, and promote it more than anyone else.

[Mooon]

I think they usually know.

[The D3vil]

Chepo is a butcher by trade in Mexico. Clen-nelo blames the taco meat.

[Beercules]

Top level trainers know everything their fighters take. They just turn away and play dumb

I agree with this.