Comments Thread For: Foreman: Give Wilder Another Chance - He Can Beat Fury Easily!

[Squared.Circle]

Wilder has the greatest punchers chance out of any puncher in heavyweight boxing.. Yet.. U people are so sure Wilder has no chance. Fury will get his azz beat in the third fight!

Fury has taken his best punches, in both fights. Wilder landed that straight right hand at least four times in the second go...Fury didn’t even blink. Wilder is done. After Fury beats him a third time Wilder will only have one or two more fights left in him (Kownacki and a third go with Ortiz baha); Good riddance I say.

[Blond Beast]

Foreman is a consensus top ten heavyweight in the history of boxing. Among trainers, writers, and fellow boxers. He's an Olympic Gold Medalist. He has one of the best jabs in heavyweight history. You mocked him for using a cross arm defense and had to change your story when I brought up Archie Moore. Why would Foreman use a cross arm defense? Moore was one of his head trainers. You are just trolling. Your opinion that Foreman wasn't a great fighter puts you in a very small minority. Prime Foreman matches up real well with any heavyweight in the history of boxing with the exception of Ali.

I did mock the cross arm defence, but that was in response to a comment of George would make all the right adjustments to beat Ali in a rematch. The cross arm is the biggest adjustment he ever made in his career style wise, unless u want to count the extra weight? It was a shot at George’s ability to make “adjustments” for sure but that was it. It was a one line comment. I never said that in my opinion George wasent a great fighter!!! U pretended I said that. I never said he didn’t have a great jab. I never said I didn’t like watching George. He has smashed tons of people fighting the way he does. I definitely wasent trolling. I mean I didn’t hear u say that the cross arm defence woulda been the right adjustment vs Ali? Yeah George was much older but he still got drilled more often with his cross arm than ever before. Archie Moore was slick and Foreman was a statue, so don’t pretend they had anywhere near the same results with the cross arm. Who else uses it? George was definitely mocked for it when he used it. Because everyone knew it was used for his lack of head and waist movement. Any other style could have been worse for him for sure, that’s why he resorted to using it. It was the best he could do at the time. George hits harder and faster than most people notice. I didn’t insult Moore’s cross arm just George’s and they are hardly the same in practice. U assumed a lot of things that I didn’t say. Uve never used the cross arm defence in ur life. So put that in perspective. I made one small joke. I don’t need to be told I don’t know who Archie Moore is or know nothing about boxing. I didn’t insult you.

[wrecksracer]

I did mock the cross arm defence, but that was in response to a comment of George would make all the right adjustments to beat Ali in a rematch. The cross arm is the biggest adjustment he ever made in his career style wise, unless u want to count the extra weight? It was a shot at George’s ability to make “adjustments” for sure but that was it. It was a one line comment. I never said that in my opinion George wasent a great fighter!!! U pretended I said that. I never said he didn’t have a great jab. I never said I didn’t like watching George. He has smashed tons of people fighting the way he does. I definitely wasent trolling. I mean I didn’t hear u say that the cross arm defence woulda been the right adjustment vs Ali? Yeah George was much older but he still got drilled more often with his cross arm than ever before. Archie Moore was slick and Foreman was a statue, so don’t pretend they had anywhere near the same results with the cross arm. Who else uses it? George was definitely mocked for it when he used it. Because everyone knew it was used for his lack of head and waist movement. Any other style could have been worse for him for sure, that’s why he resorted to using it. It was the best he could do at the time. George hits harder and faster than most people notice. I didn’t insult Moore’s cross arm just George’s and they are hardly the same in practice. U assumed a lot of things that I didn’t say. Uve never used the cross arm defence in ur life. So put that in perspective. I made one small joke. I don’t need to be told I don’t know who Archie Moore is or know nothing about boxing. I didn’t insult you.

Foreman didn't "resort" to the cross arm defense He was trained to use it by Archie Moore. His trainers were 2 of the best defensive fighters in the history of boxing (Saddler and Moore). Styles of fighting come in and out of fashion. See Floyd Mayweather's shoulder roll. Remember when Berto tried it and got his ass handed to him? I guess the shoulder roll sucks now, too? By the way, I have used the cross arm defense. Works great if you are the bigger guy.

[Blond Beast]

Foreman didn't "resort" to the cross arm defense He was trained to use it by Archie Moore. His trainers were 2 of the best defensive fighters in the history of boxing (Saddler and Moore). Styles of fighting come in and out of fashion. See Floyd Mayweather's shoulder roll. Remember when Berto tried it and got his ass handed to him? I guess the shoulder roll sucks now, too? By the way, I have used the cross arm defense. Works great if you are the bigger guy.

Moore was famous for being slick with his cross arm. That’s awesome, and rare. But he’s the only trainer to make George ( or just about any fighter since ) use the cross arm. Most likely because it’s all he knew. George looked nothing like Moore in the ring using it and got tagged constantly like a statue. U know this. No other trainer wanted him to use that style, and he never won any championships with it. If it was so great for him then George woulda kept it if was the right adaptation. Floyd can pull off the shoulder roll because he “damn near feels every punch coming”. I love Moore’s abilities more than ever now watching more of his vids since and knowing that he could pull of such a unique style. I’ve enjoyed Looking stuff up for this debate. My brother has huge arms, I’ll make him cross arm.